charlottew Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 I just completed it, it took about 20-30 minutes. The content is confidential, so I won't comment on specifics. I will say that it seems that WPP has been thinking in depth about the topic. And also, that the act of filling out the survey has shaped my thinking on the matter. Look for the survey in your mailboxes, soon! I am looking forward to seeing how this process unfolds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator LT_Oneal_PAC Posted November 12, 2019 Moderator Share Posted November 12, 2019 Thanks for the discretion. I can’t wait for mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshySlashy Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 I was not terribly impressed with the potential title change suggestions. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlj25950 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 I was not terribly impressed with the potential title change suggestions.Some were flat out weird. 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAtoMD Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 1 hour ago, hlj25950 said: Some were flat out weird. ***mod edit to remove survey options*** who came up with that one?! I was taken aback when I read it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyndhurst Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 I thought it was a good survey and it prompted me to think about the name and its effect in a different way. Without discussing the options mentioned I do think some may have been there as tools to calibrate the survey rather than genuine suggestions. At least I hope so. Overall I think name change is not the thing holding our profession back. The fact we lack serious numbers and thus our lobbying power is so much less than other professional groups is the biggest hurdle. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LKPAC Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Was one of the choices "Super-Awesome-Medical-Person?" That gets my vote! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlottew Posted November 12, 2019 Author Share Posted November 12, 2019 I agree I was taken a bit aback by a couple of the suggestions - that is what I was alluding to when I said it seemed like WPP had put a lot of thought into the process. I think the name is holding our profession back to some extent - when people see 'assistant' in the name, they tend to think non-autonomous and dependent (which we are, but not as much as the name suggests - IMHO). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlottew Posted November 12, 2019 Author Share Posted November 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, LKPAC said: Was one of the choices "Super-Awesome-Medical-Person?" That gets my vote! LOL, one of them was close to that! IMO if it's more than two words it's a non-starter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator LT_Oneal_PAC Posted November 12, 2019 Moderator Share Posted November 12, 2019 13 minutes ago, charlottew said: LOL, one of them was close to that! IMO if it's more than two words it's a non-starter. I’m not opposed to a little more syllable use. I mean, doctor of osteopathy is a mouthful, but no one uses the whole name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooks Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Does anyone know if they are still in the process of sending it out? I haven’t received mine yet and I am eager to fill it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltawave Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) Likewise, I have not received mine yet. According to the AAPA site there are four options for title change, and the surveys will be sent in waves concluding on 14 November. Edited November 13, 2019 by deltawave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirdDogPA Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 9 hours ago, Lyndhurst said: I thought it was a good survey and it prompted me to think about the name and its effect in a different way. Without discussing the options mentioned I do think some may have been there as tools to calibrate the survey rather than genuine suggestions. At least I hope so. Overall I think name change is not the thing holding our profession back. The fact we lack serious numbers and thus our lobbying power is so much less than other professional groups is the biggest hurdle. One could only hope that some of the options where for calibration purposes otherwise would have major concerns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted November 13, 2019 Moderator Share Posted November 13, 2019 33 minutes ago, BirdDogPA said: One could only hope that some of the options where for calibration purposes otherwise would have major concerns. yup. two were somewhat reasonable. two were not even pronounceable. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cideous Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Why am I getting that sinking feeling... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetMeOuttaThisMess Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Cideous said: Why am I getting that sinking feeling... Especially when you'd rather have that loving feeling. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PACali Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 I got it. The survey was better than the last one for sure.Without telling too much information, I was kind of surprised but in a good way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohiovolffemtp Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 One thing the survey totally left out was performance of medical procedures, only mentioning leading or assisting in surgery. I've primarily done EM, but did some UC, and some outpatient primary care and procedures were part of all of those, especially EM. I'm not sure that any of the 4 possible options I saw really conveyed autonomy well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sas5814 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 54 minutes ago, ohiovolffemtp said: I'm not sure that any of the 4 possible options I saw really conveyed autonomy well. Automaton! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PACali Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 hour ago, ohiovolffemtp said: One thing the survey totally left out was performance of medical procedures, only mentioning leading or assisting in surgery. I've primarily done EM, but did some UC, and some outpatient primary care and procedures were part of all of those, especially EM. I'm not sure that any of the 4 possible options I saw really conveyed autonomy well. I was thinking of the same thing, so I assumed leading = performing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cideous Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 6 hours ago, GetMeOuttaThisMess said: Especially when you'd rather have that loving feeling. I've officially lost that loving feeling..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hope2PA Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Does anyone know if some titles were eliminated because didn’t want to “upset” other providers? Was primary goal to not PO anyone and give PA’s what is left because anything is better than assistant? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paula Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 I just took the survey. While there is a lot of fussing going on about the 4 options you must realize that these may not be our only options. That info was in the survey when you opened it. So these may not be our only choices. It was a survey on our perceptions. I perceive 2 of the titles as options and I perceive two of the titles as fake titles that someone just made up.....unless we will be the new made up word that social media expands on and then it is used world wide... like the word "google". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sas5814 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 I suspect the titles were essentially made up to test the perception of something totally unique and different vs something similar to our current title.I doubt if those were the actual recommended titles. I think people are getting into a twist a little too early. Wait until the end point. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProSpectre Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 22 minutes ago, sas5814 said: I think people are getting into a twist a little too early. Wait until the end point. Yea this is the same thing that happened with the last survey, although the outrage seems to be a bit less this time. I understand the frustration, it's been such a long process and a lot of money is being spent on an already contentious issue; I'm just keeping my fingers crossed that this company will get some good data from it. I wasn't thrilled with the options they narrowed it down to either, but there's not much to do now besides trust the process, and see what the outcome is. They did ask for feedback and alternative title suggestions in the final question, so that should be reassuring for those who didn't like the survey. I think people forget that this is still a branding initiative for our profession, not a vote on our final title. That vote will come later, and hopefully will be well informed by what this company is finding out now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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