Alternative job titles survey

[charlottew]

I agree praxician has some potential, although initially acceptance will be difficult. On reflection, I think one of the reasons I liked it, is because it echoes 'physician'.

Medical care practitioner is a non-starter. Too long, and too vague. The 'care' adds nothing to it, except legal coverage.

I think 'physician associate' makes sense, although for the faction that does not want us forever bound to physicians, it of course is problematic.

[PA-C]

I work in derm. In my world, “prax” is a brand of pramoxine anti-itch lotion lol

[Joelseff]

What about "Allopractor?" [emoji848][emoji52]

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[EMEDPA]

that is an alligator chiropractor...

[rev ronin]

3 hours ago, Joelseff said:

What about "Allopractor?"
 

Allopracticator?

[Joelseff]

that is an alligator chiropractor...

Allopracticator?

[emoji23] Allopractitionacticator

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[EMEDPA]

allopraxician...you know , A kind of clinicist.....FFS. 

[Joelseff]

 

Here's one! [emoji16]

 

https://www.yourdictionary.com/medician

 

medician

 

Noun

(plural medicians)

 

(chiefly in science fiction) A physician, a medical doctor; a medic.

 

Origin

Perhaps a blend of medic and physician.

 

 

 

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[PACali]

10 hours ago, charlottew said:

 

Medical care practitioner is a non-starter. Too long, and too vague. The 'care' adds nothing to it, except legal coverage.

 

I don't think you will get sue by just calling yourself "Hi I am John Doe, Medical Practitioner" as long as your document says Medical Care practitioner.  

We need a simple name. We don't need another weird,  or sophisticated name. We need a name just like  'Medical Doctor' simple and clear. We need a name that tells the patient we we do. 

 

'Medical Care Practitioner are medical professionals who diagnose illness, develop and manage treatment plans, prescribe medications, and often serve as a patient’s principal healthcare provider. With thousands of hours of medical training, Medical Care Practitioner are versatile and collaborative.' 

 

 

[Hope2PA]

4 hours ago, PACali said:

I don't think you will get sue by just calling yourself "Hi I am John Doe, Medical Practitioner" as long as your document says Medical Care practitioner.  

We need a simple name. We don't need another weird,  or sophisticated name. We need a name just like  'Medical Doctor' simple and clear. We need a name that tells the patient we we do. 

 

'Medical Care Practitioner are medical professionals who diagnose illness, develop and manage treatment plans, prescribe medications, and often serve as a patient’s principal healthcare provider. With thousands of hours of medical training, Medical Care Practitioner are versatile and collaborative.' 

 

 

 For long term PA professional success, I am hoping that either the Medical Care or LT_O'Neal's suggestion of Medical Science Practitioner makes it through. They are best bet for gaining some semblance of independence and so much easier for patients to understand you can be a competent provider. Plus the medically ignorant legislation that passes laws will look at Medical ....... Practitioner as being more competent. Physician Associate is a short term fix, get something to feel better for right now because you don’t want to deal with real progress and change.  It boggles my mind that PA’s out there actually want to always be subservient providers hanging on the coattails of physicians that no longer want to deal with the hassle. Times they are a changing and have been for a while. Keep up or get left behind. There are no other options. 

[GetMeOuttaThisMess]

A simple observation from a retired, simple mind; you get a title past two words and things get complicated.  Physician, nurse, chiropractor, dentist, pharmacist, phlebotomist, sonographer, etc..  Two words are tolerable; radiology tech, PA, NP.  I'm not sure that my attention span is long enough to get past two words.

[Hope2PA]

1 hour ago, GetMeOuttaThisMess said:

A simple observation from a retired, simple mind; you get a title past two words and things get complicated.  Physician, nurse, chiropractor, dentist, pharmacist, phlebotomist, sonographer, etc..  Two words are tolerable; radiology tech, PA, NP.  I'm not sure that my attention span is long enough to get past two words.

 

1 hour ago, GetMeOuttaThisMess said:

A simple observation from a retired, simple mind; you get a title past two words and things get complicated.  Physician, nurse, chiropractor, dentist, pharmacist, phlebotomist, sonographer, etc..  Two words are tolerable; radiology tech, PA, NP.  I'm not sure that my attention span is long enough to get past two words.

So sad that OB/GYN, ENT, APRN, have had such a difficult time. Full title for Obstetrics and Gynecology is shortened. I’d say ENT would be most comparable as they seldom go by Otolaryngologists Andy are more commonly referred to as Ear Nose & Throat. Funny PA want less and simple while Nurses, in any area, put as much after name as possible, they think it makes them look important. They are doing pretty well as a group, little extreme but not bad example of how to succeed.

[ohiovolffemtp]

On 11/17/2019 at 10:03 PM, EMEDPA said:

that is an alligator chiropractor...

Or if 2 of them arrive bringing a stretcher it's 'gator aid'

[EMEDPA]

6 minutes ago, ohiovolffemtp said:

Or if 2 of them arrive bringing a stretcher it's 'gator aid'

Gatoraider...not as glamorous as gladiator, but what can ya do.

[ProSpectre]

11 hours ago, Hope2PA said:

 

So sad that OB/GYN, ENT, APRN, have had such a difficult time. Full title for Obstetrics and Gynecology is shortened. I’d say ENT would be most comparable as they seldom go by Otolaryngologists Andy are more commonly referred to as Ear Nose & Throat. Funny PA want less and simple while Nurses, in any area, put as much after name as possible, they think it makes them look important. They are doing pretty well as a group, little extreme but not bad example of how to succeed.

I'm with GetMeOuttaThisMess on this one, adding more words in this case (a la Medical Science Practitioner or Medical Care Practitioner) is only being done because the better option can't be legally protected. Those aren't terrible fixes, but they're a bit of a mouthful and take away from the appeal of the original term.

Lets not kid ourselves, there are a lot of things NPs are doing right in advancing their profession, but it definitely has more to do with their penchant for advocacy and the power of the nursing lobby than it does the seemingly dozens of fancy titles they create for themselves. 

If at all possible, I think we should abide by the KISS principle and collectively look for a title that is short and sweet. 

[PACali]

15 hours ago, GetMeOuttaThisMess said:

A simple observation from a retired, simple mind; you get a title past two words and things get complicated.  Physician, nurse, chiropractor, dentist, pharmacist, phlebotomist, sonographer, etc..  Two words are tolerable; radiology tech, PA, NP.  I'm not sure that my attention span is long enough to get past two words.

I don't think Medical Care Practitioner is a complicated name. They provide medical care. Physician Associate is complicated because what exactly does that mean? 

2 hours ago, ProSpectre said:

I'm with GetMeOuttaThisMess on this one, adding more words in this case (a la Medical Science Practitioner or Medical Care Practitioner) is only being done because the better option can't be legally protected. Those aren't terrible fixes, but they're a bit of a mouthful and take away from the appeal of the original term.

 

I agree it can be a mouthful, but I would just introduce myself as Emergency Medical Practitioner or Emergency Medicine Practitioner, or just simply medical practitioner  I don't think I will get in trouble as long as I have a proper name badge that says Medical Care Practitioner. 

When is last time your hear DOs introduce themselves as Osteopathic Doctor or even MDs introduce themselves as Medical Doctor? They just use Doctor or physician.

[Guest PAhopeful85]

Surprisingly to me, when doing the survey I had to rate Medical Care Practicioner as a higher grade for its title (I originally wanted to hate it). But it fits the bill for what a current PA is.  And like others have said, we don’t have to say the whole name to every patient. Even just saying “MCP” could catch on in a few years (kind of like PCP). 

Edited November 19, 2019 by PAhopeful85

[Hope2PA]

1 hour ago, PAhopeful85 said:

Surprisingly to me, when doing the survey I had to rate Medical Care Practicioner as a higher grade for its title (I originally wanted to hate it). But it fits the bill for what a current PA is.  And like others have said, we don’t have to say the whole name to every patient. Even just saying “MCP” could catch on in a few years (kind of like PCP). 

I hope more PA’s with your views grow in numbers. For those still stuck on PA (Physician Associate) do you consider that the profession has been attempting to somewhat remove themselves from State medical boards to have own credentialing body, or at least a majority of PA on board. That can’t happen if you are Associate. Do you consider legislatures that only see title and think ok those Associates are tied to physicians, Nurse Practitioner is not, so who gets more positive legislation. Although better than assistant, still their $&@...Also, type in job search for practitioner, wouldn’t it be nice that it included MCP or MSP and NP. Type  in physician Associate and you get physician Associate director, physician medical associate group, Associate medical director.... 

[PickleRick]

Just having a little fun but, for those arguing about MD having a specific understanding, I present this:

https://www.abbreviations.com/serp.php?st=MD&p=99999

[Guest Paula]

Here's another one:  PAoctor.  I mean DNP's are Noctors.  Can't we be Paoctors.  While we are making up names thought I'd throw this in.  Or Proctor!!>> LOL. or Poctor!

[SedRate]

On 11/19/2019 at 12:30 AM, PACali said:

When is last time your hear DOs introduce themselves as Osteopathic Doctor or even MDs introduce themselves as Medical Doctor? They just use Doctor or physician.

Almost daily with surgeons, although not typically when introducing themselves. When asked about things medicine/non-surgery related, I often hear surgeons say, "Ma'am, I'm your surgeon, not your medical doctor. You'll need to ask your PCP/specialist about that."

[deltawave]

I wonder when we will hear more on this. Shoot, I wonder if they’ll even publish the results or just use it for in-house decision making. 
 

I sure do hope MCP got enough love on that survey. 

[LT_Oneal_PAC]

1 hour ago, deltawave said:

I wonder when we will hear more on this. Shoot, I wonder if they’ll even publish the results or just use it for in-house decision making. 
 

I sure do hope MCP got enough love on that survey. 

We’ll hear in May 2020 at AAPA

[PACali]

8 hours ago, Sed said:

Almost daily with surgeons, although not typically when introducing themselves. When asked about things medicine/non-surgery related, I often hear surgeons say, "Ma'am, I'm your surgeon, not your medical doctor. You'll need to ask your PCP/specialist about that."

That is true, but technically they still have MD behind their name lol. To most patients, a doctor is a doctor. That is why I think surgical PA should also embrace the MCP title. 

 

5 hours ago, deltawave said:

I wonder when we will hear more on this. Shoot, I wonder if they’ll even publish the results or just use it for in-house decision making. 
 

I sure do hope MCP got enough love on that survey. 

I hope so too, Physician Associate is a short fix. We will encounter the same problem in 5 years. 

[PC2ED]

I suggested 4 in the end of it:

 

- Medical Practitioner (MP)

- PARAphysician 

- Medex

- Medical Physician Associate (MPA)