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  1. I understand people being hopeful about the significance of this rule change in the VA. But I can't find a single instance of "PA" or "Physician Assistant" being mentioned in that document. Not one. Nurse practitioner shows up a couple times (like that gem MediMike quoted above), as does nurse, physician, occupational therapist, physical therapist, speech therapist, podiatrist, dentist, midwife, psychologists, etc. Even if the specific language of this new rule would include physician assistants, it's concerning that the largest employer of PAs in the country doesn't even mention us once
  2. Exactly. I get delaying the meeting itself due to COVID concerns, but I don't understand the rationale behind delaying the release of the study results themselves. The study results should be released earlier so that people can look at the data, think through the possible title options, and form opinions that can then be expressed to their representatives in the HOD for further action at the meeting. At this rate, is the goal going to be to release the results to the HOD in November but then delay any action until the 2021 meeting the following May? Like I said, just kicking the can down
  3. Yea I'm pretty disappointed with this decision to delay release of the results until November. The one year study (that many PAs didn't support in the first place) turned into two years, which has now turned into two and a half. I supported the study early on with the understanding that it was likely the best way for us to present a unified front once we had data behind the decision for a title change. But while the pandemic was unexpected, this just feels like they're once again kicking the can further down the road, and I fear we may be missing a window of opportunity here.
  4. I don't think this is true, at least not if any future bridge programs remain the 3 year length LECOM's bridge is. It isn't actually a shortcut to go to 27+ months of PA school then another 3 years of medical school, and then a minimum of 3 years of residency (plus the gap between PA school and med school to take the MCAT if required, gain acceptance, and wait for the program to start, meaning at least 8-9 years total time if you don't work as a PA at all in the interim). It isn't a shortcut in terms of ease of entry either -- the average PA school cumulative & science GPA for matricu
  5. At this point, it's still futile to be arguing about one title or another (Physician Associate vs Medical Care Practitioner), as the phase 2 study results haven't even been released yet, and we don't actually know for sure if those were "finalists" or if they were still doing market testing. Which was the point of my previous comments -- the definitive results of the study need to be released as soon as possible so we can see what WPP came up with, and what titles they feel are strongest according to their research. Once that happens, the merits of those front-runner titles can be discussed an
  6. That's disappointing. Cancelling the conference was a reasonable move, but I was really hoping they had worked out some method of presenting and discussing the results of the investigation virtually. We need to begin taking action on this sooner rather than later, and we can't start anything on this front until those results are disseminated, discussed, and debated by the HOD.
  7. Does anybody "in the know" have any idea how the results of the title change investigation will be presented now that the AAPA had to cancel the 2020 conference? Are there any members of the HOD (or anyone else with knowledge on the topic) that can shed light on what the process looks like going forward? I sincerely hope the AAPA has a plan for releasing the final results of the investigation and presenting the WPP recommendations for potential new titles.
  8. Like others have mentioned, it isn't that PAs can't get jobs in those states. It's that NPs are preferentially hired in many practices and in many large hospital systems. You "not buying it" doesn't negate the personal experience of PAs who post on Huddle and various Facebook groups daily about being rejected from positions in favor of NPs (even for jobs posted as "NP/PA", and even when they have relevant experience in the field). Your language is hyperbolic -- of course no one can prove that there are ZERO PA jobs in those states, but that doesn't mean there isn't a growing problem that our p
  9. I disagree. I'm a new PA, I'm proud of the training I received, and I'm proud of the direction the PA profession is heading. There has been a lot of small, incremental progress over the years, albeit much less than that of NPs. I think that in general, PA training is the stronger model, and I would like to keep the standards of our training high, something that wouldn't be guaranteed if some kind of merger ever happened. NP programs range from strong brick and mortar programs that require applicants to have RN experience, find rotations for their students, and go well above the minimum cl
  10. There are old PACKRATs on Quizlet, you just have to search a little for them. This page has a number of them with the full question and correct answer choices (there's a lot of other study sets too, the ones labeled something like "PACKRAT 5" or "PACKRAT 2" that have 225 flashcards are the ones you're looking for). Edited to add: If you haven't gotten Rosh yet, you should definitely check it out once you're in clinical year. It has excellent explanations and was pretty much all I used to study for my EORs and for the PANCE; it also helped me drastically increase my score on
  11. Why not you? Are you in California? I'm across the country, but I'm happy to write an email to senators or representatives in any state to support a PA cause. I wrote last week to the senator in Florida who helped shoot down PA involvement on the HB607 there. However, we need PAs in California to lead the charge since they're going to have the most influential voice as constituents there.
  12. Yet another loss for PAs. It's quite telling of our current situation that representatives from multiple nursing organizations were able to meet with the president during a national crisis and not one representative for any PA organisation was present. Whether or not the AAPA conference ends up getting cancelled, I sincerely hope the title change information is still disseminated, voted on somehow, and acted on in the near future. "Assistant" needs to be removed from our title and we need to start fighting even harder for a seat at the table.
  13. I'm glad to see others are writing Senator Albritton too, and I hope people continue to write/call. I'm not a Florida resident anymore, but I made sure to mention that I still have friends and family there (or in politician-speak, voters & constituents). Everyone that sees this thread (especially those in Florida) should take a few minutes to contact that senator. Enough polite, professional (not angry) emails/calls/letters will go far to let him him know that he was mistaken in his views about PAs, and that our education prepares us to practice at just as high a level as NPs (I thin
  14. After you listen to this bullshit, please take the time to email this senator, regardless of whether you are a Florida resident or not. Here is his information. I just wrote an email giving a crash course on the differences between PA and NP education, and why PAs definitely don't practice at a lower level than NPs. I'm tired of misinformation like this resulting in losses for our profession. I don't want this to become a PA vs NP thing, but PAs need to stand up and argue for parity with NPs every single time a bill like this comes up. We can't just assume politicians understand wh
  15. The Physicians for Patient Protection (PPP) group is recommended to med students and residents multiple times daily on the various medical subreddits (r/medicine, r/Residency, r/medicalschool), and since those pages have large numbers of followers and lots of daily activity, they are likely beefing up the PPP group's numbers quite nicely. Most of the people that constantly plug the group are vociferously anti-PA/NP (always grouped together as one entity -- "midlevels" -- which is usually said with open disdain). The fear I have about this situation is that this vocal minority of posters
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