dream2pa Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 Hi there has anyone have any experience with facemydoc ? It is a telehealth company that provide you with the platform to operate as an independent contractor. They provide collaborating physician and you would have to pay about $10-$15 per chart review and get your own malpractice insurance. There is a membership fee that varies with every state. So far everything looks pretty OK on the paper. You will work from home and have freedom to work as many hours as you like and sdt you’re on schedule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted April 6, 2021 Moderator Share Posted April 6, 2021 getting your own malpractice is thousands of dollars/year and then you give up $15 per chart out of maybe a $50 visit? that's 20 visits/$1000 before the doc takes their part, 60 visits just to break even. No thanks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dream2pa Posted April 7, 2021 Author Share Posted April 7, 2021 They are advertising $125/hour on their website . like I said it looks good on paper but not sure . thank you for your input . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted April 7, 2021 Moderator Share Posted April 7, 2021 4 hours ago, dream2pa said: They are advertising $125/hour on their website . like I said it looks good on paper but not sure . thank you for your input . you know what they say, if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. Let's say you do 15 min appts, so 4/hr. $60 to the doc, now you are at 65/hr and paying your own malpractice. The doc is getting the better deal here. 60/hr for signing your charts, for which he has no liability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmcoh99 Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 I am also curious on anyones experience with this. I agree it seems like a good deal on paper. Curious how much the malpractice insurance actually costs for one provider on telehealth in which they have a company that they say they work with that provides a large discount. Its estimated at $109 avg. fee per visit. $10-15 per patient chart review still leaves you $94-$99 per patient seen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Independent Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 They are now advertising $150 an hour! You also have to pay $1500 per quarter before you even get 1 patient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check 2 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 I cannot fathom PAYING for my work. Maybe for a transcriptionist but - NO, I have voice recognition and type very well. And malpractice is not cheap. Tail coverage, limits? Do states have differing limits state by state? As I have said before - the Pandemic made telehealth companies sprout up like roofing companies after a hurricane. They can't all be that great........ And don't forget the legal. You have to be licensed in the state the patient is in - HUGE liability issues on that one. How many states are you covering? How many licenses? Can you get a license in a state without a doc in the same state? How about the DEA fee - but, telehealth, you can't use a DEA - hard copy rx's only. TOO many what if's here. Hard pass 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check 2 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 THIS IS ALARMING...... From the FaceMyDoc website NEVER read anything like this on a company face forward website. Who runs this nightmare? Business Conduct Policy FaceMyDoc is committed to operating the best-in-service telehealth network in North America; with first-class people, dynamic technology, unrivaled support, and a friendly professional staff. To promote safety and comfort for all, staff as well as provider members are asked to act appropriately at all times. FaceMyDoc has a Zero Tolerance Policy regarding the conduct of our staff and our providers; this policy applies to everyone. FaceMyDoc is a closely-held organization and we expect our staff and member providers representing FaceMyDoc to act maturely, to be patient and understanding, and to respect the rights, feelings and dignity of others. This Business Conduct Policy outlines general prohibited actions. The actions listed below are not an all-inclusive list of behaviors considered inappropriate: Do not send messages that are deliberately hostile and insulting to staff, patients or other providers. Do not use offensive language. Do not harass others or place unnecessary pressure on them to obtain what you want. Do not communicate negatively about the Company to others whether online or offline, including on the Company platform and third-party platforms such as social media sites. Do not make demands or write messages in CAPS. Any one found in breach of this conduct will result in permanent termination of the individual, with or without notice effective immediately. . The protection of staff, providers and patients who are using the FaceMyDoc platform is of paramount concern to the Company. Therefore, we reserve the right to deny access or membership to any person for any reason. The Company Management will investigate all reported incidents. Suspension or termination of FaceMyDoc membership privileges may result from a determination by the Company Management if in his/her discretion a violation of the FaceMyDoc Code of Conduct has occurred. In the event of termination of members, there are no refunds as stated in our Provider Membership Agreement. Refunds will only be given at the discretion of the Company in an amount that is equivalent to what the Company decides, regardless of the total dollar amount of the membership package or other services that were purchased. The terms of any refunds, if applicable, will be outlined in the FaceMyDoc Cancellation Agreement. Any questions about these policies should be directed to our Support staff. Open a ticket by clicking here and someone should respond within 72 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgriffiths Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Giving the benefit of the doubt, I don't think that list of demands is all that bad. My assumption for some of those is that they have occurred and so implemented rules as a result (e.g. the ALL CAPS). The issue is that they are just vague enough to allow for the company to have complete control and they can deny access or membership. That is a huge problem when you are paying an enormous subscription fee. But, I don't plan on ever paying to work. That is ludicrous. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sas5814 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 On 4/6/2021 at 11:40 PM, EMEDPA said: Let's say you do 15 min appts, so 4/hr. $60 to the doc, now you are at 65/hr and paying your own malpractice. You are also 1099 so you are doing 100% of your own withholding. Hard pass..... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cideous Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Permanent termination....LOL do they put the bullet between your eyes or do they 1099 out that service as well? LMAO! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaceMyDoc Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 I worked for them for 4 months, run!!! This is such a scam and they do nothing but take your money 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaceMyDoc Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 If anyone wants to know the truth about them just let me know!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pabell Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 On 11/24/2021 at 1:22 PM, FaceMyDoc said: I worked for them for 4 months, run!!! This is such a scam and they do nothing but take your money I have also been curious and have talked to HR as well has watched the webinar. Please tell me more. I was wondering about how you get patients, collaborate with other providers, reimbursement, etc. I was on the fence but now considering a hard no. Any input is great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllyMD Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 Hi! I am interested in hearing more about facemydoc. Mind providing me some details on the company and why you felt it was a scam? I am considering signing with them but would like to hear your input! Please help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sas5814 Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 I have seen more and more about Facemydoc in several forums. The bottom line as near as I can tell is just no....... They take way way too much money for what they provide. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lkwhite Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 I have talked to them as well regarding a position, but paying the collaborating physician $10-15 a chart is a bit steep and also paying $5600 in my state for membership fees seems like a lot. I have asked to talk with others that are currently doing this job and they said they would have someone call me, but I have yet to hear back from them. When asked if I could see a certain amount of patients a day they said it takes time and you could see 50-100 patients in the first year. Again this is not very many. Any input that someone could give me regarding working with this group I would appreciate. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check 2 Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 For those still asking questions - I think the message is ringing loud and clear - this place is a money mill and a nightmare. Stay away Find something else to do Don't get taken They aren't nice people RUN 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMDCEO Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 11/24/2021 at 6:22 AM, FaceMyDoc said: I worked for them for 4 months, run!!! This is such a scam and they do nothing but take your money You worked for us? You actually work for yourself as we help you setup your own practice. How exactly is this a scam? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMDCEO Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 (edited) On 12/3/2021 at 8:01 AM, pabell said: I have also been curious and have talked to HR as well has watched the webinar. Please tell me more. I was wondering about how you get patients, collaborate with other providers, reimbursement, etc. I was on the fence but now considering a hard no. Any input is great. I'd be more than happy to answer your questions directly and you can learn more about the earnings potential/reimbursements by reading my recent post on the forum here. You can pick and choose the patients you'd like to see from our online waiting room where you can see their location, their type of insurance (if any) and what is the reason for their visit. If you need a collaborating physician we can set you up with one through our network and through our partnership with CollaboratingDocs.com Hope this helps. Edited February 17 by FMDCEO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMDCEO Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 11/2/2021 at 12:23 AM, Reality Check 2 said: THIS IS ALARMING...... From the FaceMyDoc website NEVER read anything like this on a company face forward website. Who runs this nightmare? Business Conduct Policy FaceMyDoc is committed to operating the best-in-service telehealth network in North America; with first-class people, dynamic technology, unrivaled support, and a friendly professional staff. To promote safety and comfort for all, staff as well as provider members are asked to act appropriately at all times. FaceMyDoc has a Zero Tolerance Policy regarding the conduct of our staff and our providers; this policy applies to everyone. FaceMyDoc is a closely-held organization and we expect our staff and member providers representing FaceMyDoc to act maturely, to be patient and understanding, and to respect the rights, feelings and dignity of others. This Business Conduct Policy outlines general prohibited actions. The actions listed below are not an all-inclusive list of behaviors considered inappropriate: Do not send messages that are deliberately hostile and insulting to staff, patients or other providers. Do not use offensive language. Do not harass others or place unnecessary pressure on them to obtain what you want. Do not communicate negatively about the Company to others whether online or offline, including on the Company platform and third-party platforms such as social media sites. Do not make demands or write messages in CAPS. Any one found in breach of this conduct will result in permanent termination of the individual, with or without notice effective immediately. . The protection of staff, providers and patients who are using the FaceMyDoc platform is of paramount concern to the Company. Therefore, we reserve the right to deny access or membership to any person for any reason. The Company Management will investigate all reported incidents. Suspension or termination of FaceMyDoc membership privileges may result from a determination by the Company Management if in his/her discretion a violation of the FaceMyDoc Code of Conduct has occurred. In the event of termination of members, there are no refunds as stated in our Provider Membership Agreement. Refunds will only be given at the discretion of the Company in an amount that is equivalent to what the Company decides, regardless of the total dollar amount of the membership package or other services that were purchased. The terms of any refunds, if applicable, will be outlined in the FaceMyDoc Cancellation Agreement. Any questions about these policies should be directed to our Support staff. Open a ticket by clicking here and someone should respond within 72 hours. I'm glad you've done your due diligence on us and have found this on our website as it is listed in the footer menu for the whole world to see. The reply from mgriffiths is correct in that we created this policy after there was some abusive behavior exhibited by a provider to our staff and also to patients. What is wrong with requiring that the feelings, rights and dignity of others is respected by all who use our platform? In today's day and age with all of the madness in the world, it is only right that as the Founder and CEO of the company that I expect that. Although from someone who promotes such negativity (particularly on Christmas Eve of all days!) I can see why you would have a problem with this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check 2 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 No purpose in continuing this conversation. Not interested in this company or its communications. Done 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator ventana Posted January 12, 2022 Moderator Share Posted January 12, 2022 6 hours ago, Reality Check 2 said: No purpose in continuing this conversation. Not interested in this company or its communications. Done interesting thread going on besides this one I feel like I am trying to purchase a used car from Mr Licausi. Slick presentation, with huge holes and omissions in it. Interested to see if he will answer honestly as I have a sneaking suspicion there is a fair number of PA on this forum with first hand knowledge of his company that might keep things honest. He said a 5 min visit is a 214 - yeah that in itself is likely a slam dunk on insurance fraud. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANESMCR Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, ventana said: He said a 5 min visit is a 214 - yeah that in itself is likely a slam dunk on insurance fraud. Pt w/ GERD and had breakthrough reflux at night. Already on PPI. You add Famotidine qhs. Visit takes <5 min it’s a 214. Pt has GERD and constipation. Doing great on PPI and Metamucil and you review appropriate PPI administration. <7-10min visit. That’s a 214. Any pt with a chronic disease requiring monitoring, such as HIV, Hep B, IBD. Automatically a 214 no matter how long you visit. Pt has GERD, constipation, abdominal pain, and elevated liver enzymes. You order labs, CT, discuss meds. 30min visit. That’s a 214. I can bill a 214 for screening colonoscopy now if a pt has a FHx or PMHx of polyps. Rx the prep. 5 min visit. Pt has GERD. Controlling sxs with tums or resolved w/ weight loss. That’s a 213. In most cases, you only way you can get a 5 is if the pt has severe exacerbation, life threatening illness requiring consultation with another external physician etc. Lots of things changed last year. I’m not siding with the facemydoc guy but it sounds like you may be under billing. I thought it was nuts at first too. But the gimmick now is that they won’t have to pay for those level 5 visits anymore. Edited January 12, 2022 by ANESMCR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator ventana Posted January 12, 2022 Moderator Share Posted January 12, 2022 I already bill almost all 214-215 my notes are lengthy as are my visits tried telehealth. No way to deliver good care over time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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