iconic Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 (edited) https://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=physician assistant&l=NYC&sort=date&start=10&vjk=81dee24808b3c136 - NP is preferred - 2+ years experience as a NP, or 10-15 years as a Physician Assistant This job ad is outright insulting to our profession Edited July 31, 2020 by iconic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator ventana Posted July 31, 2020 Moderator Share Posted July 31, 2020 That’s funny. new grad PA= 2-3 yrs experience NP to many new grads with out a clue 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted July 31, 2020 Moderator Share Posted July 31, 2020 what a joke. I saw an ad a while ago that actually made sense: Emergency medicine PA wanted. EM Residency grad or 10+ years experience seeing high acuity patients. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconic Posted July 31, 2020 Author Share Posted July 31, 2020 The whole idea that NPs specialize makes no sense; their specialization is basically 3 rotations or 600 hours. It is sad but I am seeing plenty of ads that will take new grad NPs but PAs only if they have experience. Makes me wonder who is doing the hiring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted July 31, 2020 Moderator Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 minute ago, iconic said: The whole idea that NPs specialize makes no sense; their specialization is basically 3 rotations or 600 hours. It is sad but I am seeing plenty of ads that will take new grad NPs but PAs only if they have experience. Makes me wonder who is doing the hiring. Don't wonder- it's the RN office manager. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk732 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 4 minutes ago, iconic said: Makes me wonder who is doing the hiring. It's because many Health Care Admins are nurses. Unfortunately, there are many there because they aren't all that good at nursing and worse, many of those couldn't lead a paperweight across a desk with a leash AND a You Tube video. All I know is after reading that ad, I think someone has been into the controlled meds locker and didn't share with anyone... SK 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cideous Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 The new normal. Get use to it. We have as a profession allowed NP's to rock us and it's only going to get worse while we sit around debating Assistant vs Associate. ffs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator ventana Posted July 31, 2020 Moderator Share Posted July 31, 2020 11 hours ago, iconic said: The whole idea that NPs specialize makes no sense; their specialization is basically 3 rotations or 600 hours. It is sad but I am seeing plenty of ads that will take new grad NPs but PAs only if they have experience. Makes me wonder who is doing the hiring. nurses are doing the hiring, or they have brainwashed HR to think NP> PA when PA>NP in reality... (first time I have ever said that - but after trying to hire for position I am convinced this is the truth....) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SedRate Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 On 7/31/2020 at 7:33 AM, ventana said: nurses are doing the hiring, or they have brainwashed HR to think NP> PA when PA>NP in reality... (first time I have ever said that - but after trying to hire for position I am convinced this is the truth....) Still no luck finding a good candidate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator ventana Posted August 3, 2020 Moderator Share Posted August 3, 2020 2 hours ago, SedRate said: Still no luck finding a good candidate? Offer letter today to a new grad PA who stood above every other candidate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastabilities Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Behold, another amazing job description. I usually just smh and move on but for some reason this one has been stuck in my head. Note the bold and italics points and perplexed emojis- those stand out to me. (job ad for a CT Surgery PA with 2 years minimum experience) Key Responsibilities: Perform patient histories and physical exams Handles daily patient rounds (including the CVICU), patient education, and discharge summaries Perform invasive procedures such as thoracenteses, chest tube insertions, placement of central venous, dialysis and Swan-Ganz catheters, arterial lines, and intra-aortic balloon pumps Exhibits autonomy in the operating room when required(what does that mean?) Retrieves vascular tissue, including greater and lesser saphenous, veins and/or radial arteries, for use as a bypass conduit Often uses endoscopic retrieval methods and involved in the industrial aspect of EVH (what does that mean??) Performs first-assist duties on all cardiac cases, thoracic and major/minor vascular cases Meets the specific needs of the attending surgeon, assisting all surgeons in the practice (ok so it's just a bout the surgeons? but what about the patients?) Has exacting knowledge of each surgeon's idiosyncrasies to expedite the procedure and limit patient morbidity and mortality (uh have to manage personalities as part of the job description? factoring into morbidity and mortality huh?!) Uses knowledge of medical model to promote synergistic relationship between physician and PA (uh... that's not part of the medical model) Has extensive knowledge of the pharmacologic effects of vasoactive/ cardiotonic drugs, ventilator management and artificial cardiac devices Performs duties of a primary care PA (this is supposedly a CT surgery job..) Manages other diseases entities frequently encountered in the cardiac population, namely hypertension, diabetes, COPD, asthma, hyperthyroidism, etc. - Hmm maybe ok for 2 weeks or so.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantenso Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 As a PA-S nearing graduation (in 22 days but who's counting...), it's depressing how many such job postings I've seen. This one really has been my favorite thus far... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cideous Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 14 hours ago, Mantenso said: As a PA-S nearing graduation (in 22 days but who's counting...), it's depressing how many such job postings I've seen. This one really has been my favorite thus far... LOL Assistants... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANESMCR Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cideous Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 11 hours ago, ANESMCR said: Assistants cant be professionals can they? (eye roll) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator ventana Posted August 30, 2020 Moderator Share Posted August 30, 2020 On 8/6/2020 at 12:12 AM, Mantenso said: As a PA-S nearing graduation (in 22 days but who's counting...), it's depressing how many such job postings I've seen. This one really has been my favorite thus far... I actually sent them an email stating the facts that they are not advertising correctly. No change to ad. maybe others can email too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hope2PA Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 No reason to change, it is not incorrect, note apostrophe for physician’s. There is so much uproar within the PA profession about the apostrophe. Anyone, except PA’s, likely think it is kind of silly when your title is still assistant, and potentially associate. Likely PA’s will spend an enormous amount of time balking about being a physician associate vs. physician’s associate. So my question is why complain about such listings when you should be focusing on getting away from any title that can be remotely misconstrued. I’ve seen postings about not wanting to have title with practitioner so not confused or grouped with NP’s. Do you really think it is better to be confused with a medical assistant or a physician’s assistant. or an associate, like Walmart associate etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cideous Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 16 minutes ago, Hope2PA said: No reason to change, it is not incorrect, note apostrophe for physician’s. There is so much uproar within the PA profession about the apostrophe. Anyone, except PA’s, likely think it is kind of silly when your title is still assistant, and potentially associate. Likely PA’s will spend an enormous amount of time balking about being a physician associate vs. physician’s associate. So my question is why complain about such listings when you should be focusing on getting away from any title that can be remotely misconstrued. I’ve seen postings about not wanting to have title with practitioner so not confused or grouped with NP’s. Do you really think it is better to be confused with a medical assistant or a physician’s assistant. or an associate, like Walmart associate etc. Damn straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHU-CH Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 On 8/4/2020 at 10:06 PM, Pastabilities said: Has exacting knowledge of each surgeon's idiosyncrasies to expedite the procedure and limit patient morbidity and mortality (uh have to manage personalities as part of the job description? factoring into morbidity and mortality huh?!) I'd be worried that this is secret code for the surgeon is not a nice human being. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator ventana Posted August 31, 2020 Moderator Share Posted August 31, 2020 21 hours ago, Hope2PA said: No reason to change, it is not incorrect, note apostrophe for physician’s. There is so much uproar within the PA profession about the apostrophe. Anyone, except PA’s, likely think it is kind of silly when your title is still assistant, and potentially associate. Likely PA’s will spend an enormous amount of time balking about being a physician associate vs. physician’s associate. So my question is why complain about such listings when you should be focusing on getting away from any title that can be remotely misconstrued. I’ve seen postings about not wanting to have title with practitioner so not confused or grouped with NP’s. Do you really think it is better to be confused with a medical assistant or a physician’s assistant. or an associate, like Walmart associate etc. 's is a state level issue many states still have the 's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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