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  1. Back in the day, I got the Welch Allyn set with the metal handle. Buy once, cry once. It will last forever. You can literally drive nails with the handle (in sheetrock, anyway). Someday if you have kids you will use the otoscope a few times a year.
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    Contact the schools directly and see what they say.
  3. That's a decent GPA. I would not worry too much. In keeping with the thread theme, people with really low GPAs need to recognize if a low GPA is your problem you need to address it directly. To borrow an analogy from academia, building your credentials for PA school is like making a three-legged stool. If your "GPA leg" is too short, and all you do it make the "experience leg" longer, the stool is still going to topple over. Focusing solely on building experience when your GPA is your primary problem is like buying hemorrhoid cream when you have a headache. It's nice to have, but it doesn't help where the problem is.
  4. Different strokes for different folks. Some of us have aspirations related adding value to people's lives beyond just moving meat. Did all of the mentors in your life get paid?
  5. I worked in an ER that used scribes. The vast majority of them were on the path of becoming some kind of healthcare provider. If the PAs and docs knew this, most of us would try to help them develop some clinical decision making skills and make sure they saw interesting stuff. I was in the habit of asking the scribes what they thought was going on, what they would do next. So in fact, anyone can come up with a differential diagnosis. There's a difference between generating "A" Ddx and generating "THE" Ddx (the one that eventually gets recorded in the documentation).
  6. If there exists such a cabal, I am deeply sorrowed to report that I have not derived any benefits from it. Nor have any faculty members I know. Maybe we missed the sign-up meeting. I do know I could be making a shizzle ton more money in clinical practice than I am making trying to train the next generation of PAs, so hopefully the cabal kicks things into overdrive soon.
  7. I don't think anyone is opposed to this - given your scenario, I think everyone would make the same decision. But again, admissions situation are never this cut and dry. More likely we are comparing: a 4.0 candidate with experience you'd regard as weak versus a medic that had to repeat multiple courses to clear the minimum acceptable pre-req GPA Experience is great because it can help provide evidence of intangibles, like a history of good people skills, flexibility, creativity and the ability to manage stressful situations. It can also develop some assessment and procedural skills, although these will be rudimentary compared to those needed in PA school. Most of these allied health experiences don't speak one iota toward a candidate's ability to handle the type of science courseload PA school will throw at them. Did you know that during the accreditation self-study process, PA programs have to explain to the ARC-PA every grade of "C" or lower that has occurred in the last three years?
  8. I always mix him up with Davy Crockett.
  9. The explosion in programs is most likely due to the exposure our profession has gotten in the last decade. Pretty much every year we have made the "Top 10 Best Professions" in some big-name media outlet. Administrators read this stuff and all of a sudden they are putting a program together for provisional accreditation. I was at the PAEA conference last month, and ARC-PA spoke and rightly noted they don't have an ability to keep new programs from opening. As to what will happen in the future, I believe they used the term "natural selection." Programs will go out of business. Some of these will be newer programs, and some will be programs that have been long established. Believe it or not, degree creep might not originate from academia. PAEA didn't originate OTP - that primarily came out of AAPA. It seems like there is a boatload of PAs around looking for a fancy title. If it gets traction, universities will happily start to supply a route to a fancy title. No one is happy about costs. I have about as much control over rising tuition costs as you do over rising healthcare costs. The only thing that will stop spiraling costs is people deciding they are not going to pay it any more. I love being a PA but if I was young and knew what I know now I would seriously look into a building trade.
  10. It seems like you are suggesting that being a medic is the utter pinnacle of experience for a future PA? Is this for all PAs, or just for PAs who ultimately intend to go into emergency medicine? Do you know any incapable paramedics (I have met a few in my travels)? What of their experience? What if his brother became a respiratory therapist? Or if his brother was a scribe in an ER, don't you think he would have been exposed to a lot more treatment algorithms for a lot more conditions than a medic is typically exposed to? This is much more complex than people are making it out to be. As for Game of Thrones, I'll have you know I went to high school with Tyrion Lannister (albeit not in the same class). Beat that!
  11. Impossible to say, unless you tell us what the other guy was doing for those 2 years.
  12. SHU-CH

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    I'd give NCCPA a call. My conferences always pop up there automatically. Did you possibly not complete a conference evaluation form? Sometimes the organizer won't release your completion certificate until you complete the eval.
  13. PA programs really do make a concerted effort to turn out the best possible graduates. We are well aware that we play a serious role in the future health of our profession. We also all puzzle over the incoming characteristics that best identify someone who will be an exceptional student and eventually an exceptional PA. If someone can show me decent evidence that experience is of paramount importance, I can change our requirement basically overnight for our next admission cycle and I'm happy to do so. Having looked at a ton of data, articles and graduates, I hate to say it but there is no formula that works well. There is no such thing as an ideal GPA or ideal type/length of experience that predicts a solid clinician. There are just a wide variety of individuals who apply to PA school and we select and work with them as best we can. Most turn out great, some are shaky, and there is not a lot to tell who will be who coming in the door.
  14. I guess my expert experience is different. I have been in PA education for 15 years. I have not observed a significant difference in outcomes among our students based on their experience level. I've been involved in EMS for 25 years. Students who come in with this type of background are generally initially more comfortable working with people, but the differences disappear during the first semester. If anything, it has sometimes proven difficult to teach up and coming, former EMS students the difference between an ambulance report and a history and physical write up. They are good at managing some things, like CHF, but they can anchor on a diagnosis, develop tunnel vision, and fail to identify subtle findings. Some "experience" can lead people to think they have much better skills than they really have. If you are not humble, medicine will humble you. My N is 450-500. Our employer surveys do not indicate a difference.
  15. This opinion is very firmly held by many. I'm still waiting for the data to show it is anything other than an opinion, though.

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