Moderator EMEDPA Posted September 18, 2013 Moderator Share Posted September 18, 2013 rumor has it from reliable sources that LECOM will be dropping their MCAT requirement for the 3 year bridge program. see this discussion at SDN: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=14461354#post14461354 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futurePAS Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Having to commit to a primary care osteopathic residency after med school.. seems like a huge sacrifice for not very much. Is a DO family med salary high enough to warrant the cost of med school+ loss of potential income? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator LT_Oneal_PAC Posted September 18, 2013 Moderator Share Posted September 18, 2013 You have to commit to a osteo residency, not primary care. You can do it in whatever specialty you like as long as its AOA approved. They have EM, anesthesia, surgery, ect. They don't have everything, but most things. A DO FM salary is the same as a MD salary, and yes it's enough. People like to cry over how little they are paid, and they are underpaid compared to specialties, but they make out just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardsgirl Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 wooohoooo!! great step LECOM!!!! maybe the proposed bridge program in Yakima will follow in their steps!!! ....It would still be hard for me to land a Cards fellowship with an osteopathic residency, maybe that requirement will be dropped next! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinntsp Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Very interesting... Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David the Nome Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Anything more on this? It'd be nice if they made this change on the admissions page, as a confirmation of sorts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted September 22, 2013 Author Moderator Share Posted September 22, 2013 nope. not yet. I sent an email to the director which has gone unanswered to this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToppDog Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 wooohoooo!! great step LECOM!!!! maybe the proposed bridge program in Yakima will follow in their steps!!! ....It would still be hard for me to land a Cards fellowship with an osteopathic residency, maybe that requirement will be dropped next! This sounds interesting. I haven't heard of it. Is this part of the reason they are starting their own PA program at Heritage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator ventana Posted September 24, 2013 Moderator Share Posted September 24, 2013 take one more year off and I might consider! (course my wife would not be happy...) oh yeah and the residency needs to get a year shorter too - I really don't need 3+ years of OJT on top of the 11 I already have..... to do the same job i already do now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted September 24, 2013 Author Moderator Share Posted September 24, 2013 Email from Dr. K today confirms MCAT gone. he said I would need to take 1 ochem course. he recommended the online course from UNE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedicinePower Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Email from Dr. K today confirms MCAT gone. he said I would need to take 1 ochem course. he recommended the online course from UNE. The first semester of Orgo Chem is the fundamentals of orgo and teach you all about resonance, lewis structures, reactions (and their many types). You learn a lot of reagents and how electrons are dancing around molecules. Orgo II is primary focuses on synthesis with novel reagents and seeing if you're able to get molecule A to turn into molecule B in 5 steps or less (easy to go do it in 6 but you have to do it in 5 or less). For anyone taking an orgo chem class I strongly recommend Organic Chemistry as a Second Language. I tutor orgo chem 5 days a week and my students who use this supplementary text (as I did when I took orgo I and II) do far, far better than those who don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted September 24, 2013 Author Moderator Share Posted September 24, 2013 The first semester of Orgo Chem is the fundamentals of orgo and teach you all about resonance, lewis structures, reactions (and their many types). You learn a lot of reagents and how electrons are dancing around molecules. sounds critical to the practice of medicine.....or not.....:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedicinePower Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 sounds critical to the practice of medicine.....or not.....:( It's applicable to a sound knowledge of biochemistry and pharmacology, but not to the daily practice of medicine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z PA-C Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Don't be afraid of ochem! It's really not as bad as everyone says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted September 24, 2013 Author Moderator Share Posted September 24, 2013 It's applicable to a sound knowledge of biochemistry and pharmacology, but not to the daily practice of medicine. I know. doesn't mean I have to like it....:) their program requirements are more than fair and if I were single and without kids it would be a no brainer. currently 2 years left to go on my current doctorate(DHSc) so I will deicde before I'm done with that. this is the course that meets their ochem prereq: http://www.une.edu/com/online/organic/ looks like they require a general chem class within 7 years. my last one was in 1989...:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted September 24, 2013 Author Moderator Share Posted September 24, 2013 I just sent him an email to see if the uc berkeley online course would also work. 3 units instead of 4, no lab, and no time requirement on the prereqs: http://extension.berkeley.edu/search/publicCourseSearchDetails.do?method=load&courseId=40421 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedicinePower Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I know. doesn't mean I have to like it....:) their program requirements are more than fair and if I were single and without kids it would be a no brainer. currently 2 years left to go on my current doctorate(DHSc) so I will deicde before I'm done with that. this is the course that meets their ochem prereq: http://www.une.edu/com/online/organic/ looks like they require a general chem class within 7 years. my last one was in 1989...:) I suspect you could find an orgo chem 1 class at a local community college. Some colleges (like the one I work) have a combined "Principals of Organic & Biochemistry" which is sort of Orgo-lite and very introductory biochem. I took it before I took actual biochem and it helped demystify some of it (I had already taken Orgo 1 and 2 so the first half of the class was a very basic review). I don't know if LECOM would accept a combined intro to orgo/biochem course in place of an actual Orgo Chem 1 course but it might be worth asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted September 24, 2013 Author Moderator Share Posted September 24, 2013 see my post #16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedicinePower Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 see my post #16 Interesting. The Principals of Organic & Biochemistry course I referenced does include a lab, for a total of 4 credits. Ask him if CHM-121 would count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gc8 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Do most PA programs accept online Org Chem to fulfill their prerequisite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaijyn Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 What was the PANCE score requirement? I saw the proposed one in the thread but was curious if there was any confirmation. The Website still showed the MCAT score requirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator LT_Oneal_PAC Posted September 24, 2013 Moderator Share Posted September 24, 2013 I just sent him an email to see if the uc berkeley online course would also work. 3 units instead of 4, no lab, and no time requirement on the prereqs: http://extension.berkeley.edu/search/publicCourseSearchDetails.do?method=load&courseId=40421 Please let us know what he says. Is orgo 1 just for you and others with massive experience? What are the things they look at in deciding to drop a req or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted September 24, 2013 Author Moderator Share Posted September 24, 2013 Please let us know what he says. Is orgo 1 just for you and others with massive experience? What are the things they look at in deciding to drop a req or not? I don't know for sure what criteria they use to determine who needs what. I know someone in the first class who never took physics and was required to take 1 course. ochem is the only major prereq I have never taken so I guess they would want me at least to have some exposure. I took a full yr of college level physics with lab as well as the bio and undergrad gen chem sequence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted September 25, 2013 Author Moderator Share Posted September 25, 2013 I just sent him an email to see if the uc berkeley online course would also work. 3 units instead of 4, no lab, and no time requirement on the prereqs: http://extension.berkeley.edu/search/publicCourseSearchDetails.do?method=load&courseId=40421 He got back to me today. The berkeley course is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David the Nome Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 He got back to me today. The berkeley course is fine. So in that case may we presume that within five years or so it will read EMED PA, DHSC, DO? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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