ShakaHoo Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 The application period will open later this year for PAs who are due to recertify in 2024, 2025, and 2026 and want to participate in this new process. The registration period will close December 15, 2022, and the first block of exam questions will be available in January 2023. Does this mean that if your recertification is due in 2023 and 2024 you are eligible for the new test? Or anyone past their 6th year in the 10 year cycle is not eligible until the next cycle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sas5814 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 My read is its 12 quarters so it seems you would need that much time to complete the process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakaHoo Posted May 10, 2022 Author Share Posted May 10, 2022 (edited) I contacted NCCPA - and they said that I WOULD be eligible for the PANRE-LA, which is interesting- because as you said - it will carry past my 10 year cycle. Edited May 10, 2022 by ShakaHoo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator rev ronin Posted May 10, 2022 Administrator Share Posted May 10, 2022 1 hour ago, ShakaHoo said: I contacted NCCPA - and they said that I WOULD be eligible for the PANRE-LA, which is interesting- because as you said - it will carry past my 10 year cycle. The pilot exam had to be started, not completed, before the scheduled expiration date. They did year-to-year extensions for folks participating in the pilot program who were set to expire, which included me. I suspect this may be the last time they do that, now that they've made this process official, because the final process wasn't approved and available for you when you would have had to enroll in it to complete it before your expiration date. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sas5814 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 I wonder if the cost will be the same? I had actually planned on retiring in a few years and just letting my "C" go but I may want a part time job or something eventually so I think I'm going to give the new system a try. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAinDerm01 Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 So @rev roninif my 9th year to recert is 2023 and my 10th year is 2024. Let’s say I start PanreLA in my 10th year I only have 1 year to complete it? Or does it extend x 3 years from start date? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator rev ronin Posted June 6, 2022 Administrator Share Posted June 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, PAinDerm01 said: So @rev roninif my 9th year to recert is 2023 and my 10th year is 2024. Let’s say I start PanreLA in my 10th year I only have 1 year to complete it? Or does it extend x 3 years from start date? I'd ask NCCPA, but for the first folks in the pilot, it allowed you to year-by-year extend your recertification until it was completed. I do not think they will allow you to complete it other than in the scheduled manner, but again, I'm not the NCCPA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAinDerm01 Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 @rev roninok I just emailed them this question: “I reviewed your FAQ page and cannot seem to find the answer to my question. I originally took Pance in Nov 2014 so my 9th year to recertify is 2023 while my 10th year is 2024. Given registration begins July 2022 to Nov 2022 for opening PanreLA block in Jan 2023, does this mean I only get 8 of 12 quarters to pass exam? Or if I begin in Jan 2023 does this extend my ability to pass over 12 quarters? This is assuming 4 quarters per year (3 years = 12 quarters) but I will theoretically only have 2 years or 8 quarters to pass, correct? “ Let’s see what they say… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAinDerm01 Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 Official answer from Nccpa: Thank you for your email. If you can pass the PANRE-LA within the first eight (8) quarters, your certification will continue business as usual. However, if you do not pass the PANRE-LA within the first 8 quarters, your certification will be extended for one (1) year which will allow you to complete the last four (4) quarters of the PANRE-LA. If you are unable to pass after completing all 12 quarters, your certification will be extended for one (1) more year to allow you to take the traditional PANRE up to three (3) times in that one year. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAinDerm01 Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 Does anyone know how many minutes you get per PANRE-LA question? Is it even feasible to have time to look at any references? I read its 1 min or 5 min per question, not sure which Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator rev ronin Posted June 8, 2022 Administrator Share Posted June 8, 2022 2 hours ago, PAinDerm01 said: Does anyone know how many minutes you get per PANRE-LA question? Is it even feasible to have time to look at any references? I read its 1 min or 5 min per question, not sure which In the pilot, it varied from 2 to 5 minutes per question, but all 25 questions in a particular quarter had the same time limit, IIRC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMarshallB Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 How many questions can you miss in a single block of 25 when taking the PANRE-LA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator rev ronin Posted July 17, 2022 Administrator Share Posted July 17, 2022 44 minutes ago, JMarshallB said: How many questions can you miss in a single block of 25 when taking the PANRE-LA? It's going to vary. I don't know that there's any fixed number, but I was shooting to stay above the average score every quarter of the pilot, which was of course a good bit higher than the passing threshold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMarshallB Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 Thanks In essence, what I am trying to find out is what score you need to achieve to pass the quarterly exam and move on to the next quarter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator rev ronin Posted July 17, 2022 Administrator Share Posted July 17, 2022 43 minutes ago, JMarshallB said: In essence, what I am trying to find out is what score you need to achieve to pass the quarterly exam and move on to the next quarter That part is opaque, and probably intentionally so. Basically, just take each question as it comes, give your best multiple-choice response in 5 minutes, and move on. There's no waiting, the answer is insta-graded and you get to see the rationale right away. At no point did I NOT pass a quarter, so I have no idea what that would even look like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMarshallB Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 Ok so the next logical question is how do you prepare for this test? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgriffiths Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 2 hours ago, JMarshallB said: Ok so the next logical question is how do you prepare for this test? make sure you know your login to UpToDate? Just kidding...sort of, but also curious myself. I'm probably still going to do a review course for CME/review since I work ortho...but wouldn't mind having some other resources available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator rev ronin Posted July 17, 2022 Administrator Share Posted July 17, 2022 If you're in family medicine, you don't need to prepare. I suspect EM, Peds, and IM would also do just fine. This is designed to be not a test one studies for, but rather that verifies that one hasn't forgotten the basics. You have 5 minutes to look up things, which is enough for people who remember the basics of medicine to pass the test. On the pilot, however, UpToDate was NOT my favorite resource--it doesn't have things laid out for 15-second snippet views. I actually used Medscape a lot more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMarshallB Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 Thanks you reply’s have been very helpful! i have been practicing since 1995 l have sat for the PANCE , taken the take home as well as sat for the PANRE I have worked UC, FP, then Ortho for 10 years , recently Urology for the last 6 years thanks again for all the input! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohiovolffemtp Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 During the pilot, I used Medscape and Google, occasionally the free Epocrates. Worked well, except for a few questions where NCCPA's answer wasn't aligned with current practice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted July 18, 2022 Moderator Share Posted July 18, 2022 I am going to do this next year for my recert. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMarshallB Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMarshallB Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 Yes l have been practicing with ROSH review questions timing myself while answering questions using Google to confirm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcambron Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 For anyone who still has questions, or just wants to learn more about the pros and cons of the PANRE-LA, here is a video from my channel that breaks it all down. Hope you find it helpful! https://youtu.be/hPH2rYHnIOc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator ventana Posted July 21, 2022 Moderator Share Posted July 21, 2022 doing the LA this time instead of doing my 3rd PANRE time will tell if worthwhile if not will just test out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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