Guest ral Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Had a mid-60's lady come in end of last week. Extremely pleasant. Typical upper respiratory stuff. Then she says, "My chiropractor adjusted my sinuses but, I'm still not quite well." Having heard exactly what she said, I pretended I didn't and said, "I'm sorry, what was that?" She repeated herself. "Okay then," says I, "let's take a look and listen to a few things." as I started my exam. I just don't know anymore. Guess I should let people spend their money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator ventana Posted March 12, 2018 Moderator Share Posted March 12, 2018 yup and then can "cure" things with 3x's per week visits for the rest of your life..... And yet THEY call themselves physicians and doctors (sounds of my hand slapping my forehead HARD) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinkertdm Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 The crazy thing is, chiropractors and NDs and Jenny mcarthy think we are the ones on the fringe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatMan Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Nurses I work with last week were talking about getting their kids adjusted for ear infections. And I'm pretty sure one of these said children was actually an infant. Sigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAAdmission Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 The thing I wonder is.... do most chiros know it is a bunch of BS and that they play people for suckers? Or do they really buy into the insanity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator rev ronin Posted March 13, 2018 Administrator Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 hour ago, CJAdmission said: The thing I wonder is.... do most chiros know it is a bunch of BS and that they play people for suckers? Or do they really buy into the insanity? Worth a watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAAdmission Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Last time I went to the chiro he did some testing and discovered my midichlorian count is higher than Master Yoda's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgriffiths Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 14 hours ago, ral said: "My chiropractor adjusted my sinuses but, I'm still not quite well." Maybe I shouldn't but I tend to call out this bulls***. I mean, what did the chiropractor do, punch her in the face?!? After reading about chiropractors splitting carotid arteries with neck manipulations (definitely a rarity, but does happen) I tell patients about it when asked about the effectiveness of chiropractors. Not saying a chiropractor can't help with some issues, but a chiropractor will never have my permission to adjust my neck, EVER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrekkieByDay Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 My neighbor of about 2-3 years was a chiropractor, & yes, he did believe all this stuff. -None of his kids had vaccinations, & he believed their immune systems were better off for it. -His kids have never had antibiotics. -He thought wheatgrass would still be okay for me, even though I'm allergic to wheat. -He was *sure* he could cure me of my wheat and dairy allergies. Then, his staff used a blood pressure cuff on my ankle for some godforsaken reason, & he told me I had a liver problem after *poking my liver* with his fingers, making me say OW!! The thing is, he really *did* help me with my horrible back pain. I was a worship leader at the time, and had an 8-hour rehearsal with a heavy guitar, and woke up unable to move. He fixed me right up. His adjustments helped my very hyperactive daughter sleep, before I got meds for her sleep disorder. Adjustments apparently helped *him* as a baby with a seizure disorder. However, I didn't see a *bit* of evidence to support his nutrition/bacteria/anti-vax quackery at all. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrekkieByDay Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 14 minutes ago, mgriffiths said: Maybe I shouldn't but I tend to call out this bulls***. I mean, what did the chiropractor do, punch her in the face?!? After reading about chiropractors splitting carotid arteries with neck manipulations (definitely a rarity, but does happen) I tell patients about it when asked about the effectiveness of chiropractors. Not saying a chiropractor can't help with some issues, but a chiropractor will never have my permission to adjust my neck, EVER. I saw that on Quackwatch. :( If we're required to disclose the most ridiculous rare medication interactions, then ^^^this should be a part of informed consent for every Chiropractic customer. I almost said "patient." But no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camoman1234 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 22 minutes ago, TrekkieByDay said: My neighbor of about 2-3 years was a chiropractor, & yes, he did believe all this stuff. -None of his kids had vaccinations, & he believed their immune systems were better off for it. -His kids have never had antibiotics. -He thought wheatgrass would still be okay for me, even though I'm allergic to wheat. -He was *sure* he could cure me of my wheat and dairy allergies. Then, his staff used a blood pressure cuff on my ankle for some godforsaken reason, & he told me I had a liver problem after *poking my liver* with his fingers, making me say OW!! The thing is, he really *did* help me with my horrible back pain. I was a worship leader at the time, and had an 8-hour rehearsal with a heavy guitar, and woke up unable to move. He fixed me right up. His adjustments helped my very hyperactive daughter sleep, before I got meds for her sleep disorder. Adjustments apparently helped *him* as a baby with a seizure disorder. However, I didn't see a *bit* of evidence to support his nutrition/bacteria/anti-vax quackery at all. :( Pure wheat grass and barley grass without seeds is gluten free. If that is the reason you are allergic to wheat then I would agree that you should be okay if you buy a pure form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrekkieByDay Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 15 minutes ago, camoman1234 said: Pure wheat grass and barley grass without seeds is gluten free. If that is the reason you are allergic to wheat then I would agree that you should be okay if you buy a pure form. Yeah, that's not why. I'm gluten sensitive (chronic stomach problems) *AND* allergic to wheat (rash, eczema, swelling). W/ Dairy, it's swelling of the mouth, tongue, throat, then wheezing. Lots of fun. /headdesk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmj11 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 I realized a long time ago that I can't compete with the other (CAM) paradigms. I will say, "Really smart people have devoted their lives to studying this and yet, because it is so complicated, no on on the planet knows exactly what causes this or exactly how to treat it. But we can do trial and error until we find a great result." At the same time the patient is hearing from the CAM, "I know exactly what is causing this. It is very simply "__". I can fix it in 8 treatments and your life will change forever. I've never had a failure." I just have to patiently wait until the 8 treatments are done and that they are no better, then they return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAAdmission Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 5 hours ago, jmj11 said: I realized a long time ago that I can't compete with the other (CAM) paradigms. Reminds me of the old joke: There was a man who had had a headache for twenty years and was at the point where he wanted to end his own life, but he decided to go to a specialist first. No doctor could solve his problem, until finally one of them said, "You have a very rare problem, your testicles are pressed up against your spine causing your headache. The only way to remedy it is to remove your testicles." The man hesitantly agrees and gets them removed. On his way home he walks past a tailor shop with a sign saying "ALL SUITS HALF PRICE" Being in need of a new suit he walks in where a man greets him and says, "Hello sir, I see you want a suit, I would say that you are a 34 sleeve and a 32 inseam." "Wow! How did you know that?" said the man. "Why Sir I've been in this business for 40 years. Would you like shoes to go with that?" "Sure" says the man. "Okay I'd say that you're a size 10 wide." "Ok, now you're freaking me out...Thats a great talent" says the man. "Thanks" replied the shopkeeper, "Now how about some undergarments?" "Ok see if you can guess my size", said the man. "Easy 36" said the shopkeeper. "Nope 34" replied the man. To which the shopkeeper exclaimed "Impossible - a size 34 would crush your testicles against your spine and give you a hell of a headache." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatMan Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 If no one has read the book "Do you believe in magic?," I highly recommend. This reminds of the story in their about a naturopath who claimed success because when one of his pediatric patients died, his body was only mostly riddled with mets, and not his entire body. Its a sad book but an excellent read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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