andersenpa Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 http://www.healthnewsdigest.com/news/Guest_Columnist_710/Things_Doctors_Should_Know_About_Hiring_a_Physician_Assistant.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted May 9, 2011 Moderator Share Posted May 9, 2011 too bad the author failed to mention the difference in clinical hrs between a typical pa and np program...that's the top thing in my mind that recommends pa's> np's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginger Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 I appreciate you posting this; and I agree with your point definitely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marilynpac Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 I hear you can now get your NP online in 6mos.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcdavis Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 I hear you can now get your NP online in 6mos.... For those who have read my postings for the last 6-7 years and know my feelings about the NP national organizations, this may be a surprise.. But, were there such a program, and were there a way I could challenge the RN so as to meet that requirement, you better bet I would take such a course and get NP behind my name. The mind quivers at such a thought.. But what a safety back up to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contrarian Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 ... were there such a program, and were there a way I could challenge the RN so as to meet that requirement, you better bet I would take such a course and get NP behind my name... A simple and quick way to get your RN the only limiting factor is available cash and the speed in which you can schedule your 2.5 day (20hr) clinical exam. There are reports of folks completing the testing for the didactic part this program in as little as 30-45 days. Admission Requirements for Associate Degree in Nursing Programs Our nursing degree programs are specifically designed to serve individuals with significant experience in clinically oriented health care disciplines. Admission to the associate degree in nursing programs is not open to international students. Admission is open to prospective students in the following categories: Licensed Practical/Vocational Nurses Paramedics Certain classifications of Military Corpsmen Respiratory Therapists, Respiratory Technicians, Respiratory Care Practitioners Physicians trained and/or licensed outside of the United States Physicians or Physician's Assistants trained and/or licensed in the United States Licensed, Certified or Registered Midwives Students who have successfully completed at least 50% of the clinical nursing credit hours with a minimum grade of C in an associate, baccalaureate, or RN diploma nursing program within 5 years of completing their last nursing course Source Send "Jer_sd" a PM as this forum member took this route. Good Luck Bro... Contrarian P.s... here is a thread FULL of practicing RNs and NPs that took this route... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LESH Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Cool. I didn't know they did this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewitt Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 I got my RN through Excelsior. It was underwhelming... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkc18 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 The thought has crossed my mind to do excelsior and NP as a back up after I graduate and pass my cert. The environment Im starting to see is that NPs have everyone hook line and sinker with being independent but fail to mention the "collaborative" agreement worded exactly like the supervisory contract. It blows my mind.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firemedic13 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Excelsior is having trouble getting its grads licensed in several states, FYI. A friend of mine recently graduated and had issues from the nursing board getting her license. And this was in a state that is supposedly OK with Excelsior. On top of that I believe 4 states (including CA) will not let you get licensed with a degree from them, and another 3 or 4 make it very difficult. So caveat emptor and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andersenpa Posted May 10, 2011 Author Share Posted May 10, 2011 too bad the author failed to mention the difference in clinical hrs between a typical pa and np program...that's the top thing in my mind that recommends pa's> np's. "Many people believe a PA is not able to prescribe medication or perform duties traditionally reserved for physicians. Both of these are myths. In many states, a PA can do anything a physician delegates to them to do, as long as they have been properly trained and are following all supervisory guidelines. PAs can prescribe medication, refer patients, order tests and interpret results, conduct physical examinations, diagnose and treat illnesses, counsel on preventive healthcare, assist in surgery and more. PAs may be found working in hospitals, clinics and many other types of health care settings." I think this could be clearer. "PAs practice and prescribe in every US state and territiory, as well as worldwide through military and humanitarian services. PAs can work in any setting where physicians work." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted May 10, 2011 Moderator Share Posted May 10, 2011 Excelsior is having trouble getting its grads licensed in several states, FYI. A friend of mine recently graduated and had issues from the nursing board getting her license. And this was in a state that is supposedly OK with Excelsior. On top of that I believe 4 states (including CA) will not let you get licensed with a degree from them, and another 3 or 4 make it very difficult. So caveat emptor and all that. several friends of mine have done this(excelsior/regents). apparently you just need to get a license in 1 state then others will give you a license by reciprocity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizzyJ Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Hmmm....I think the entire article could use a little sprusing up with its content and grammer. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andersenpa Posted May 10, 2011 Author Share Posted May 10, 2011 Hmmm....I think the entire article could use a little sprusing up with its content and grammer. "sprucing" "grammar" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator ventana Posted May 11, 2011 Moderator Share Posted May 11, 2011 A simple and quick way to get your RN the only limiting factor is available cash and the speed in which you can schedule your 2.5 day (20hr) clinical exam. There are reports of folks completing the testing for the didactic part this program in as little as 30-45 days. Send "Jer_sd" a PM as this forum member took this route. Good Luck Bro... Contrarian P.s... here is a thread FULL of practicing RNs and NPs that took this route... this is for an associates in nursing is it not? where do you get the NP portion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizzyJ Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 "sprucing""grammar" What??!?! I thought that was funny! Guess I should of added in an "LOL" at the end of my statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelseff Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 What??!?! I thought that was funny! Guess I should of added in an "LOL" at the end of my statement. I got it jon!!! LOL!!!! and yes I thought the very same thing when I read the article. But at least she's trying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelseff Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 ...Im starting to see is that NPs have everyone hook line and sinker with being independent but fail to mention the "collaborative" agreement worded exactly like the supervisory contract. It blows my mind.... This however IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE swinging favor towards NP.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contrarian Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 this is for an associates in nursing is it not? where do you get the NP portion? Correct... this is for a ASN. Remember... nurses take care of their own. So once you get the ASN from above program... applying for a online ASN-->MSN program is simple... and we KNOW ... you have the network already in place where you can set up your own 500-600 clinical hrs. Another option... if you got the time and where with all ... is to try and find a "direct entry"... Bachelors or Masters degree to MSN evening program. You know... one of the many RN programs that only admit folks who already have bachelors or masters degrees in other fields and make them MSN's in about 18 months. Just Thoughts... Contrarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewitt Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 You can get a bachelors from Excelsior after you get your ADN with no furthur clinical assesment. Another option would be for example to get your ADN from Excelsior then complete a BSN online in 12 months from a school like UMASS Boston with no clinical or classroom time. After that you could apply to an online or standard NP program and in 4 years go from an EMT to clinican with as little as 12 weeks of patient contact (500 hours). Lewitt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marilynpac Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Correct... this is for a ASN.Remember... nurses take care of their own. So once you get the ASN from above program... applying for a online ASN-->MSN program is simple... and we KNOW ... you have the network already in place where you can set up your own 500-600 clinical hrs. Another option... if you got the time and where with all ... is to try and find a "direct entry"... Bachelors or Masters degree to MSN evening program. You know... one of the many RN programs that only admit folks who already have bachelors or masters degrees in other fields and make them MSN's in about 18 months. Just Thoughts... Contrarian Yes, Contrarian nurses take care of their own, as do MD/DOs, we're the only ones with our head in the sand, and as I said before we are eating their dust..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFarnsworth Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 I got my RN through Excelsior. It was underwhelming... How long did it take you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFarnsworth Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 several friends of mine have done this(excelsior/regents). apparently you just need to get a license in 1 state then others will give you a license by reciprocity. How do you go about getting a license from another state? Just pay them money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted May 16, 2011 Moderator Share Posted May 16, 2011 How do you go about getting a license from another state? Just pay them money? you send them a copy of your current license, your board scores and a check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSUnoles Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 A quick Google search could have turned up this forum and he could have gotten opinions Sent from my HTC Glacier using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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