nicole0285 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I am in a pa school that does not pay preceptors. I was just wondering if most pa schools pay their preceptors for taking students. I am worried that our preceptors are not as invested in the students because they are not getting paid. Any input? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contrarian Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 To my knowledge... NO programs actually pay Preceptors and few if any pay "honorarium" to Lecturers... Which is part of the reason why they really bend over back wards for them, appreciate them... and if they suck... the program isn't really quick to ditch them. I've never met a PA program lecturer or preceptor that wasn't a volunteer. Which then leads to the question... Where is ALL that tuition money going...??? 30-50 people all paying $60-$80 THOUSAND every yr seems to me like they could afford decent, dedicated Staff, Faculty, Professors and clinical sites...:heheh: YMMV Contrarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradtPA Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 The government will pay for some precepting through the AHECs. The schools do not pay for any of the costs, however.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guthriesm Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Hmm, my preceptors are paid and I gather it is the norm for my area. That said - I highly doubt it is much and I know my preceptor this semester agreed to do the work, did the work, and then was pleasantly surprised to find a check at the end of the semester. So I don't think most of them do it for the money. I think the reason there is any money involved is to keep everything above board- it is a contract with an obligation and compensation. I doubt your person is going to give you any more or less than any other student. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAPA Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Most medical students are having to pay preceptors now. It will becoming the norm. Expect the same for Physician Assistant Students. But, while on this topic - ask yourself WHY your school is charging you FULL tuition while you are on rotation, being trained by someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just_me Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 I dont know of any healthcare program that does it differently....do you? They are awarding you credit for your learning experiences Most medical students are having to pay preceptors now. It will becoming the norm. Expect the same for Physician Assistant Students. But, while on this topic - ask yourself WHY your school is charging you FULL tuition while you are on rotation, being trained by someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCHAD Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Our school pays some preceptors...its kind of a thing they offer if a preceptor is on the fence about taking students but they don't offer it to everyone. Honestly, I think Preceptors who don't get paid could actually be better because they are doing it because they want to rather than for the income. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrsmurf Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 wow, i thought all preceptors do it on a volunteer basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator rev ronin Posted April 23, 2011 Administrator Share Posted April 23, 2011 wow, i thought all preceptors do it on a volunteer basis. Volunteer, sure, but they get hour-for-hour type 2 CME, so they do get something out of it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted April 23, 2011 Moderator Share Posted April 23, 2011 I have never been paid to precept but I generally get a nice certificate for 200 hrs of cat 2 for each student. one place sent me a certificate proclaiming I was adjunct faculty for the program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anitah Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Our preceptors don't get paid but they earn CME credit and are also considered adjunct professor. Looks good on the CV. Glad they are willing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator ventana Posted April 30, 2011 Moderator Share Posted April 30, 2011 I think is should be paid - something like $100-200 per week:=D: and I do wonder where the $$$ goes for tution that is spent:O_O: - even a class size of 30 students yields some pretty impressive incomes...:wink: Anyone in academics care to share where the $$$ goes?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LESH Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 The PAEA Annual Report collects some information on program's budgets you might look here: http://www.paeaonline.org/index.php?ht=d/sp/i/243/pid/243 . Scroll down and try the pdf downloads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crystaltide Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Incredibly useful link...thanks LESH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donwinder Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 We had a end of rotation activity on this topic. Many of our preceptors came and spoke about what makes a good and bad student, etc. When it was asked what they thought about being paid, all of them whether veterans or newbies to precepting, said it should not happen. If you think you have bad preceptors now, wait until their motivation is simply money. If they arent doing it now when the only reward is CME and educating the next generation, then they shouldnt be doing it anyways. Plus whatever a program could offer wouldnt really be of much help. You would probably just be turned into a scut monkey anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddoc Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Good information from PAEA via Les. Allow me to address the "full tuition" question while students out of rotation. 1) the PA faculty still needs to get paid 2) the lights, heat and AC still have to remain on but most importantly 3) the $$ you pay for the first year don't cover your costs so they are amortized over 2 - 2.5 years. I have seen a couple programs front load the student costs but that just means you exceed your subsidized grant and loan limit that year and have to take out higher interest loans. That wouldn't be my choice if I were in your shoes. Does that help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAPA Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 I always wondered why PA programs charge FULL TUITION hr/rate for rotations, even though they are not teaching anything - unpaid preceptors are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classof2013 Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 I know this an old thread, but I just joined this forum. Mayo Clinic told me they are charging for all rotations. I think it was around $500 per rotation. Does anyone else have any current information. Setting up my own rotations is proving to be very difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classof2013 Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 I know this an old thread, but I just joined this forum. Mayo Clinic told me they are charging for all rotations. I think it was around $500 per rotation. Does anyone else have any current information. Setting up my own rotations is proving to be very difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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