PAvsMDWife Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Can anyone point me in the direction to find a list of: 1. PA schools rankings 2. PA Schools ranked by GPA or GRE score (by acceptance) I thought I found a list awhile back, but now I can't. I can easily find this for MD/DO schools but can't find anywhere for PA school. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamo24 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 http://www.university-list.net/us/rank/univ-20131123.htm this is the US News rankings. Pretty reliable I think. As far as PA schools ranked by GPA or GRE, I would assume its analogous to the rankings list, maybe not completely though. You could try and check AAPA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friction Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 I would take USNWR Rankings, and all rankings for that matter, with a grain of salt. You can read this study and get an idea of how skewed things can get. I would look at PANCE scores as opposed to GPA/GRE statistics. http://www.paeaonline.org/index.php?ht=action/GetDocumentAction/i/118967 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GatorRRT Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 What's the point of going to PA school? TO PASS BOARDS. Look for programs that have consistently high PANCE pass rates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatChecko Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 What's the point of going to PA school? TO PASS BOARDS. Look for programs that have consistently high PANCE pass rates. BINGO! Second, go to the school where you see you will do best. I've had alums from top 10 schools tell me they didn't enjoy their experience and I interviewed at a school that was more highly ranked than where I am going and decided not to go there due to some organizational changes I wasn't too excited about. Thus, YMMV. At the end of the day the US News rankings are simply a popularity contest and the response rate is pretty dismally low as well, so while it might be a good place to start, do your own research and make sure the school is a good fit for you. Checko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted February 22, 2013 Moderator Share Posted February 22, 2013 I think quality of rotations is the most important ferature of a pa school. board pass is about the students, not the school. good students at "bad" schools pass pance and bad students at great schools don't. also us news only ranks ms level programs and some of the better programs out ther may be at the cert/as/bs level. as an example when u.wa went from bs to ms they went from off the radar to #3. they didn't really change much except the degree conferred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friction Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I think quality of rotations is the most important ferature of a pa school. board pass is about the students, not the school. good students at "bad" schools pass pance and bad students at great schools don't.also us news only ranks ms level programs and some of the better programs out ther may be at the cert/as/bs level. as an example when u.wa went from bs to ms they went from off the radar to #3. they didn't really change much except the degree conferred. So in your opinion EMEDPA, who do you think does the best job preparing PA students? I know you value the majority of students coming out of MEDEX... How about USC with its 8 week rotations? Anyone else really stand out to you? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted February 22, 2013 Moderator Share Posted February 22, 2013 most of the older east coast programs; drexel, yale, emory, duke, gw, stony brook, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pglaser01 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 most of the older east coast programs; drexel, yale, emory, duke, gw, stony brook, etc Do you have any opinions on some of the Midwest programs? Particularly Illinois and Missouri? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted February 22, 2013 Moderator Share Posted February 22, 2013 Do you have any opinions on some of the Midwest programs? Particularly Illinois and Missouri? nope, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrthoSurgeryPA Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 SJVC makes the best PAs...just saying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator True Anomaly Posted February 22, 2013 Moderator Share Posted February 22, 2013 Oh, how soon we forget.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UGoLong Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Go interview, see how each school feels, see if they try to weed you out or help you get ready for boards, and see how they've done in the past. I learned more from talking to the students at each school I interviewed at than anything. I haven't met anyone yet who cared where I went. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickitabanana Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 When I interviewed at Stony Brook the Program Director actually told us NOT to consider USNWR rankings (even though Stony Brook always ranks high -- it's a great program) and instead to look at FIRST TIME NCCPA pass rates as a way to compare programs. From what I understand, the USNWR rankings aren't based on any objective criteria. I've heard it's sent out to program directors and they're asked to rank other programs based on their opinion. ("You rank my school high and I'll rank yours high, too") Students' pre-PA school GPA/GRE scores/HCE hours, clinical rotations, PANCE pass rates, etc. are not even used to calculate the results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted March 10, 2013 Moderator Share Posted March 10, 2013 also us news only ranks ms level programs and several excellent programs are still cert/as/bs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanVale Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I couldnt agree more with EMEDPA. Quality rotations is the most important feature of a PA program. Every accredited PA program had basically the same didactic, the difference between a PA-C and a PA unable to pass the boards is the person behind it. The harder you work, the more chances youll pass the boards. Its not the PA program that makes you a good PA, its your level of involvement and commitment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanVale Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I couldnt agree more with EMEDPA. Quality rotations is the most important feature of a PA program. Every accredited PA program had basically the same didactic, the difference between a PA-C and a PA unable to pass the boards is the person behind it. The harder you work, the more chances youll pass the boards. Its not the PA program that makes you a good PA, its your level of involvement and commitment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stellahead Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I agree rotations are important. Some schools have students set up all of their rotations. This sounds like an amazing amount of hassle. Also key, in my opinion, is that the school is part of a medical center so you have access to really great resources, such as expert guest lecturers and a cadaver lab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stellahead Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I agree rotations are important. Some schools have students set up all of their rotations. This sounds like an amazing amount of hassle. Also key, in my opinion, is that the school is part of a medical center so you have access to really great resources, such as expert guest lecturers and a cadaver lab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LESH Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 I couldnt agree more with EMEDPA. Quality rotations is the most important feature of a PA program. Every accredited PA program had basically the same didactic, the difference between a PA-C and a PA unable to pass the boards is the person behind it. The harder you work, the more chances youll pass the boards. Its not the PA program that makes you a good PA, its your level of involvement and commitment. You have come a long way son.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LESH Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 I couldnt agree more with EMEDPA. Quality rotations is the most important feature of a PA program. Every accredited PA program had basically the same didactic, the difference between a PA-C and a PA unable to pass the boards is the person behind it. The harder you work, the more chances youll pass the boards. Its not the PA program that makes you a good PA, its your level of involvement and commitment. You have come a long way son.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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