Moderator EMEDPA Posted August 25, 2015 Moderator Share Posted August 25, 2015 http://www.healthecareers.com/sempa/job/physician-assistant-emergency-medicine/1681895 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LKPAC Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 They are offering 50,000 pounds. = only $57650.00 and they want "significant clinical experience." No thanks. On the other hand, the call you physician associate, not assistant... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealityCheck Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 I would love to go - If I were 20 years younger.................. What an amazing opportunity! 3 dogs, 2 cats and a bunch of teenagers later - not likely. My husband would have to work there too and his profession wouldn't translate well - electrician - a whole new system. The pay is sparse, the cost of living might be an issue. Maybe when the nest is empty.......................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted August 26, 2015 Author Moderator Share Posted August 26, 2015 They are offering 50,000 pounds. = only $57650.00 and they want "significant clinical experience." No thanks. On the other hand, the call you physician associate, not assistant... 50,000 GBP = 78,916.32 USD that would be a significant decrease in pay, but it's money I can live on given the benefits package offered. they are also willing to arrange learning opportunities to meet applicants requests with protected non-clinical time every month. I'm thinking of this as an opportunity to (among other things) improve my ultrasound and critical care skills(kind if like a mini-post grad program disguised as a sabbatical.) I applied. my wife can work anywhere (she's a commercial artist) and the kids are about to start high school. sounds like a good time to go... it's a fairly lengthy application process. it took me over an hour to complete. we can rent the house out to cover the mortgage, put everything in storage for 2 years, and loan out a few pets. doing this scares me, which is one of the things that tells me it's worth doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted August 26, 2015 Author Moderator Share Posted August 26, 2015 more info: http://npaep.com/about-the-project/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator rev ronin Posted August 26, 2015 Administrator Share Posted August 26, 2015 I've asked a couple of colleagues (from my former career) in the UK how much £50K really is in real money over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted August 26, 2015 Author Moderator Share Posted August 26, 2015 I've asked a couple of colleagues (from my former career) in the UK how much £50K really is in real money over there. look at the benefits package and job particulars before you pass judgement on the offer...I specifically like this: "There will be a focus on acquiring further skills and expert knowledge in the relevant specialty field. NPAEP PAs will have individual mentors to support their career development. Furthermore, NPAEP PAs will be supported in their interests to expand clinical proficiency, build upon leadership skills and improve performance of didactic and clinical teaching through a unique continuing professional development (CPD) program and the provision of scheduled, protected non-clinical time." That would be the first time since graduation from PA school almost 20 years ago that an employer was interested in developing me as a clinician and not just as someone to move the meat.That's worth a lot. This could be my chance to get good at u/s, spend some time working in an ICU honing critical interventions, etc I am talking seriously with the wife about how to make this work. for starters, no car. bike or public transit only. I wouldn't trust myself to drive on the wrong side of the street anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delco714 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 No prescription rights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator rev ronin Posted August 26, 2015 Administrator Share Posted August 26, 2015 I've asked a couple of colleagues (from my former career) in the UK how much £50K really is in real money over there. Consensus is that that's a reasonable salary, and can work depending on location and dependents, (i.e., not workable IN London with kids) but isn't going to make anyone rich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted August 26, 2015 Author Moderator Share Posted August 26, 2015 No prescription rights? you can order meds in a hospital setting or under delegated practice agreements using the name of your sp at the hospital pharmacy. apparently, it's not a problem. I have talked to folks who work there in em and they say it is almost a non-issue. would be harder in a non-hospital based practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted August 26, 2015 Author Moderator Share Posted August 26, 2015 Consensus is that that's a reasonable salary, and can work depending on location and dependents, (i.e., not workable IN London with kids) but isn't going to make anyone rich. I am only applying for positions in less urban areas. I like the small town/rural vibe as folks here know. my primary area of interest is around Yorkshire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MediMike Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Someone's been reading some James Herriot huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted August 26, 2015 Author Moderator Share Posted August 26, 2015 Someone's been reading some James Herriot huh? funny you mention that, it's the first thing my wife said too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted August 27, 2015 Author Moderator Share Posted August 27, 2015 apparently PAs have 3 main issues at present in England, all of which are under review: They can't write RXs under their own name They can't order diagnostic xrays/ct/mri under their own name They can't discharge pts from hospitals under their own name. That being said, I've spoken with some em physician associates there who say they have work arounds for each of these issues. It's a little silly that a PA can run a code team there without a doc in the room, intubate, etc, but can't write their rx if they survive to discharge or order a portable chest xray to check ET tube placement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealityCheck Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 A bit like the states where I can Rx Schedule I drugs and pronounce you dead but can't sign for diabetic shoes or home health..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MediMike Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Not doing discharges doesn't sound all that bad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted August 27, 2015 Author Moderator Share Posted August 27, 2015 Not doing discharges doesn't sound all that bad... in an er setting I think that just means the attending doc has to sign the d/c order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator True Anomaly Posted August 28, 2015 Moderator Share Posted August 28, 2015 funny you mention that, it's the first thing my wife said too... Reading James Herriot almost made me a veterinarian as a kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted August 28, 2015 Author Moderator Share Posted August 28, 2015 so it turns out the director of this program is a UK Emergency physician. he sent me an email today. I've sent them a full application and a copy of my CV with references. We'll see what develops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MediMike Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Reading James Herriot almost made me a veterinarian as a kid Right there with you. Although morbid as it may be, I find it easier to see hurt people than animals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medic25 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I am only applying for positions in less urban areas. I like the small town/rural vibe as folks here know. my primary area of interest is around Yorkshire. I could see you being the first PA at Downton Abbey... ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFarnsworth Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 EMEDPA, how exciting! My husband is from England, and he talks about going back... so please keep us updated on your experience! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketpropelled Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 so it turns out the director of this program is a UK Emergency physician. he sent me an email today. I've sent them a full application and a copy of my CV with references. We'll see what develops. Are these the folks that had a booth at AAPA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted August 31, 2015 Author Moderator Share Posted August 31, 2015 Are these the folks that had a booth at AAPA? don't think so. this is a new initiative launched within the last month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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