andersenpa Posted April 27, 2007 Author Share Posted April 27, 2007 hi everybody! i was wondering if it was possible to enroll in the nebraska distance learning program while in the clinical/2nd year. since my school is a cert school, but i already ahve my bachelor's. i would love to be able to finish PA school and get my MS at the same time. any ideas? ~facio From the UNMC Distance Learning MPAS website: Must be a graduate of an accredited PA Program and possess a bachelor's degree from an institution of higher learning accredited by the US Department of Education, Office of Postsecondary Education. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LESH Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 hi everybody! i was wondering if it was possible to enroll in the nebraska distance learning program while in the clinical/2nd year. since my school is a cert school, but i already ahve my bachelor's. i would love to be able to finish PA school and get my MS at the same time. any ideas? ~facio Depending upon where you are going to school you might be able to do St Francis MMS program. YOu complete it during the clinical year of the program. http://www.francis.edu/Graduate/MMS/MMSaffiliations.shtm Good luck in your future PA endeavors Lesh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadmedic Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 hi everybody! i was wondering if it was possible to enroll in the nebraska distance learning program while in the clinical/2nd year. since my school is a cert school, but i already ahve my bachelor's. i would love to be able to finish PA school and get my MS at the same time. any ideas? ~facio In addition to Andersen's reply-you have to be or have been a PA-C also... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruralnp Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 After many phonecalls and much pain, I finally got the tuition disbursement released from my employer's deep pockets, and received the course materials from UNMC the other day. The breakdown- 3 books- ethics, health care policy and writing/publishing a scientific paper Log materials for clinical hrs and patients Outline for the thesis One yr to compete the reading, paper, and 800 clinical hrs.... Plan to have it done well in advance! E- hows the AZ program? I am curious, are you working full time during your graduate program? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andersenpa Posted April 30, 2007 Author Share Posted April 30, 2007 I am curious, are you working full time during your graduate program? Yep. The program is set up to work with your clinica;schedule. I log my patient encounters, cases etc as part of thre required 800 hrs. The only outside work is the paper and a few books to read/answer questions on..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted April 30, 2007 Moderator Share Posted April 30, 2007 I am curious, are you working full time during your graduate program? yes he is but he already has his clinicals done from pa school so is just basically taking a yr to write a thesis. the difference between a bs pa program and an ms program is not clinical content but research. the only difference between a certificate program and an ms program is research. all pa programs regardless of degree awarded are taught at the graduate level of intensity. it is easy to write a thesis while working as opposed to doing clinicals while working. I did the same program about a decade ago and worked full time and finished in a yr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest facio57 Posted May 2, 2007 Share Posted May 2, 2007 thanks for the replies! after writing directly to the program coordinator, she did state that i needed to be a graduate and working. my school is one of the few, however, that is able to receive the MMS from St. Francis. i will probably go that route since i want to graduate with an MS even though it is a few thousand more ... ~facio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contrarian Posted May 2, 2007 Share Posted May 2, 2007 yes he is but he already has his clinicals done from pa school so is just basically taking a yr to write a thesis. the difference between a bs pa program and an ms program is not clinical content but research. the only difference between a certificate program and an ms program is research. all pa programs regardless of degree awarded are taught at the graduate level of intensity.it is easy to write a thesis while working as opposed to doing clinicals while working. I did the same program about a decade ago and worked full time and finished in a yr. To add... The "well established" PA program you are in right now... Will grant you a Masters Degree when you finish and pay your bills ($$$$)... This same "well established" institute of higher learning granted a AAS, BA/BS or Cert the class or two before yours... for the same work with maybe a paper and a "research interpretation" hour thrown in once a week during the last semester...:rolleyes: Gotta love that "academic integrity"... A few programs "get it"... so they only charge you the cost (~ 5k) of grading the "publishable research" paper, reviewing your patient log and taking a Ethics class... Then grant you a masters. Those who realize this can: 1.) Complete PA school for ~ 25k... 2.) Then complete a Masters for another 5k while earning loot... For your consideration... Contrarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andersenpa Posted May 2, 2007 Author Share Posted May 2, 2007 1.) Complete PA school for ~ 25k... 2.) Then complete a Masters for another 5k while earning loot... And I know that I'm getting alot more out of this clinical project than I would by doing this during PA school. The is an opportunity to refine expertise in an area of my practice, rather than a PA school thesis that doesn't build on a well established knowledge base... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andersenpa Posted May 14, 2008 Author Share Posted May 14, 2008 I mentioned on anothert thream that I am almost done with the Nebraska program. Two thumbs up. I'm looking to publish a refined version of the paper for JAAPA. Hopefully others will post who are working on distance programs....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjim2525 Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 I did the em focus at nebraska( funded by work) back when the total cost was 1800 dollars. what a deal. learned a lot and got my thesis paper published. glad I did it.I did the same exact thing. The diploma sits on the wall, and my job hasn't changed one bit, but i'm glad I did it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjim2525 Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 I mentioned on anothert thream that I am almost done with the Nebraska program. Two thumbs up. I'm looking to publish a refined version of the paper for JAAPA. Hopefully others will post who are working on distance programs....... Congrats man, hope you finish soon. I'm kind of like you from what I can gather. I graduated PA school in 1990 with a BS, and then waited 13 years to get the MPAS at Nebraska. I'm glad I did it though, because there was also some pressure from NP's who all had Masters degrees, that PA's were somehow less educated because most in the earlier days did not have masters degrees. Do you remember those days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andersenpa Posted July 1, 2008 Author Share Posted July 1, 2008 Well, it's done. The paper and everything else is in the mail. The tuition check is long since cleared, so the degree is on the way. Cool experience, I recommend it to anyone out there from a stone age BS/cert program like me...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted July 1, 2008 Moderator Share Posted July 1, 2008 Well, it's done. The paper and everything else is in the mail. The tuition check is long since cleared, so the degree is on the way. Cool experience, I recommend it to anyone out there from a stone age BS/cert program like me...... congrats! a buddy of mine finished this week as well. he's going straight into nova's dhsc.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terps55 Posted July 1, 2008 Share Posted July 1, 2008 Need Clarification: For the Nebraska program, the clinical hours you have log can be earned through my current employment? I know other programs require outside hours from regular employment. Also I have heard there are no classes with Nebraska just the clinical hours and 1 thesis paper after you read 3 books. Is this info correct? Any help is greatly appreciated, I'm thinking about transferring distance learning programs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andersenpa Posted July 2, 2008 Author Share Posted July 2, 2008 The clinical hours are those from your primary practice. -documented hours -patient list w/ diagnoses -read and answer questions on 3 books Medical writing Health care policy Ethics -Paper, on a clinical topic relevant to your practice -$3625 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terps55 Posted July 2, 2008 Share Posted July 2, 2008 andersenpa, thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caine Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 Hello to everyone. What is the shortest time frame that one can complete the DLP at Nebraska ? I was told that one can complete it in 6 months is this true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocialMedicine Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 what are they looking for from this paper on a clinical interest? 100 pages? reviewing literature? suggesting a hypothesis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andersenpa Posted July 11, 2008 Author Share Posted July 11, 2008 Hello to everyone. What is the shortest time frame that one can complete the DLP at Nebraska ? I was told that one can complete it in 6 months is this true? 6 mos min, 12 mos max.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andersenpa Posted July 11, 2008 Author Share Posted July 11, 2008 what are they looking for from this paper on a clinical interest? 100 pages? reviewing literature? suggesting a hypothesis? min 15 pages w/ 15 references. I found this hard to do if you are going to cover a topic any sort of depth. Mine was a little over 90 pages and had about 170 references..... It is a literature review on a clinical topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caine Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 I have been looking at Nebraska and Nova's master's programs and I would like to know if any of you folks have any knowledge of the program at NOVA . I guess more specifically, which is a better program as fas as getting your money's worth and clinical practise. I know that Nebraska is cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest scaphoidfx Posted July 12, 2008 Share Posted July 12, 2008 Well, it's done. The paper and everything else is in the mail. The tuition check is long since cleared, so the degree is on the way. Cool experience, I recommend it to anyone out there from a stone age BS/cert program like me...... Yes. Congrats. Will be doing the same program fairly soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contrarian Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 The University of Nebraska (in bold letters) Medical Center and College of Medicine are under that, it goes on to state the degree "Masters of Physician Assistant Studies, This is the main diploma. There is a second certificate given that states "The division of Physician Assistant Education" "University of Nebraska Medical Center certifies that..", this has the degree and specialization,"Masters of Physician Assistant Studies degree" and the specialization - ie Orthopedic Surgery (in my case). **Thread Ressurection** Last yr... I convinced a PA-C to do the UNMC program to get a post-grad MPAS. One of the selling points was the extra piece of paper (certificate) that listed her specialty (Physical Medicine/Pain Management). She called me today... she was happy to tell me she finally graduated with her MPAS... but only got the MPAS diploma and didn't get the additional certificate listing "Physical Medicine/Pain Management" as her specialty. She was a bit disappointed because as she explains it... she specifically enrolled in the UNMC program to secure this so that she could have some credibility and credentials testifying to her concentrated education and experience in Pain Management. It was especially important to her to secure this since this state has newly mandated "Pain Management" guidelines implemented in stages from 1 July 2011--> 1 Jan 2012. Did they stop issuing this additional specialty specific certificate...???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted August 19, 2011 Moderator Share Posted August 19, 2011 she should call the program. I know someone who finished 2 yrs ago and got a specialty cert. in wilderness emergency medicine so as far as I know they are still giving them out. matt? mike? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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