david89 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Hi all I think there was a thread about disability forms somewhere here but i can't seem to find it. is there any tips on refusing to sign disabilities forms for patients? if a patient is missing a limp, sure, i have no problem filling out disability form. but this pt has diabetes and complains polyneuropathies, pt can't stand for a long time during work...another pt with foot pain, no injury, can't "walk" normality....they continuously request forms to be filled out......any tips on refusing to sign these paperworks? Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FfIghter23 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Yeah. Tell patient: I can't sign that form because you do not meet specified criteria to deem you disabled. If I sign that paper I am committing a fraudulent act. The law doesn't look favorably on that. If you wish to have that paper signed, I suggest you find another medical provider." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UGoLong Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 We get a lot of forms. As I am in cardiology, I will only sign forms for legitimate cardiac problems. Anything else needs to go to the PCP or the provider treating the condition. If I were a PCP and there was a question, I'd probably refer to, for example, PT for an evaluation. I don't like having to guess how much weight someone can lift, or how long they can stand. On the other hand, tell me that their EF is 20% and I'm fine with signing them up for a job that involves little or no lifting and sitting much of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JMPA Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Hi all I think there was a thread about disability forms somewhere here but i can't seem to find it. is there any tips on refusing to sign disabilities forms for patients? if a patient is missing a limp, sure, i have no problem filling out disability form. but this pt has diabetes and complains polyneuropathies, pt can't stand for a long time during work...another pt with foot pain, no injury, can't "walk" normality....they continuously request forms to be filled out......any tips on refusing to sign these paperworks? Thank you easiest route, refer to occ med Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator rev ronin Posted February 14, 2016 Administrator Share Posted February 14, 2016 I will rarely sign for a permanent disabled parking plate, but will routinely do six month placards. In my mind, the greater the benefit for fraudulent use, the higher the bar for medical evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator ventana Posted February 14, 2016 Moderator Share Posted February 14, 2016 I gave up not filling them out I required an office visit to do it - not doing paperwork for free I explained as I was filling it out and did so honestly. Most the time they realize as I am filling out the form that it is not going to get them disability, and in fact shows/documents that they are not qualified for it. I make sure to take a copy for the record...... Seems to have drastically cut down on the number I have to fill out and sign...... Guess my reputation got around...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paula Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 I fill out forms for disabled parking stickers and usually those who ask for them are legitimate. However, disability requests are either referred to PT/OT or occupation medicine/physiatrist, plus a discussion that it is a legal process and they probably need a lawyer. On the other hand, I get more and more requests to fill out FMLA forms for patients who miss work for just a few days , as required by their employer. Really???? For two days of missed work? If I did not see the patient for whatever reason they missed work, I won't fill it out. If they were hospitalized and that is the reason for FMLA, of course I will fill it out at their post hospital visit. I won't do anything for free either. It is an office visit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator rev ronin Posted February 14, 2016 Administrator Share Posted February 14, 2016 I won't do anything for free either. It is an office visit. I'm considering doing that for prior auths, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator ventana Posted February 17, 2016 Moderator Share Posted February 17, 2016 I'm considering doing that for prior auths, too. I think if your schedule supported it --- go for it and it should be done nation wide and stick it to the private pay insurance companies..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenmood Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 We started using that covermymeds website for prior auths. I hate it. It's more work for me. As far as disability paperwork goes, almost no one I see will qualify for permanent disability. I have occasionally signed for temporary handicap cards for people who have significant mobility limitations as documented by our physical therapists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andohert Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 I used to sign temporary parking ones in ortho after surgery. As for occ med- they need to see someone who is familiar with the disability guidelines and routinely makes these determinations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lauren R Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 If you don't think they're disabled, don't sign. Ask your supervising physician or tell the patient they don't meet criteria. You don't need to compromise your beliefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sas5814 Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Hi all I think there was a thread about disability forms somewhere here but i can't seem to find it. is there any tips on refusing to sign disabilities forms for patients? if a patient is missing a limp, sure, i have no problem filling out disability form. but this pt has diabetes and complains polyneuropathies, pt can't stand for a long time during work...another pt with foot pain, no injury, can't "walk" normality....they continuously request forms to be filled out......any tips on refusing to sign these paperworks? Thank you Personally I just tell them they don't want me to fill out their paperwork because I don't think they are disabled and if I do it will create an official record of my expert opinion. One of the clinics I occasionally fill in at tells people they will do the evaluation and send the paperwork directly to the agency or company with a copy being made available to them after the fact. They will not tell the patient their determination ahead of time. They also charge a fee for completing any forms or paperwork not directly related to the patients care such as FMLA paperwork ($25) to one of those horrible electric wheelchair evaluations ($125) with the only promise as to content being that it will be a fair representation of the facts as the provider sees them. This fee is above any visit charges and cannot be submitted to the insurance company for reimbursement. It is a little heavy handed but cuts down on trivial paperwork requests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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