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  1. You should get a bachelors degree in something you find USEFUL and interesting. What happens if you don’t get into PA school and have to rely on your BA or BS for a while to live your life? Don’t put your future self in that position. If a graphic design degree is going to keep you busy, productive, and give you a job to feed yourself/family, go for it. Just make sure you take the right classes so PA school is a realistic option.
  2. But that’s the same for any job, in any market. Why hire a seasoned nurse who you must pay for her knowledge when you can hire a fresh grad for pennies? Most reasonable people know the answer to that. Why hire a bus driver with a clean record and 15 years of experience with children when you can hire some 25 year old who just got his license? Again, most reasonable people can answer that question. Why hire a physician with 20 years of bedside experience and 10 papers a year over a kid just out of residency? You can keep going, to assume there is some problem with this specific to PAs is kind of nonsense.
  3. Like any other profession? Not trying to be flippant. People who want to continue earning and increasing their earnings will always find a way. You can’t answer this question because every PA and every PA employer is different. Throwing a random number “ceiling” out there will never be correct. Some loan reimbursement was worked into my first job offer, but that has since gone away for new hires.
  4. This info is interesting, but IMO useless without location details. I have this sense that location, even moreso than specialty, impacts pay.
  5. Many people have difficulty finding shadowing opportunities during regular business hours; this may be exponentially harder, especially since it sounds like you don't have any leads on a person to shadow. I would start looking at hospitals or urgent cares. You need to find a place open on the weekend or at night, first. Then you can start cold calling PAs. I worked at a hospital with PAs while I was applying to schools. I took a day off work, put on a suit instead of scrubs, and went to the hospital as a shadow instead of an employee. If there is a PA in your office you should consider doing the same. Gotta use the connections you have.
  6. Yes. You have one foot in the grave at 27. Focus on the time you have left with your family. Good luck.
  7. I’m really not trying to rain on your parade. But. Have you fully explored what you would do as a PTA? Many many PTAs are required to do as much (if not more) manual physical labor as CNAs. Unless you’re going to be in something like sports medicine where the patients are generally able-bodied, there is a LOT of lifting involved in PTA work. A gait belt and an aide are great if you have both, but not guaranteed. And Maynard. PTAs work with providers every day. That’s like saying CNAs only work with nurses.
  8. When you go on interview days, discreetly seek out the first and second year students with families. It's a red flag if you can't find any. I say do this discreetly because the last thing you want to do on an interview day is suggest (accidentally, of course) that you don't have a plan or that you don't have support at home. That's a red flag for THEM.
  9. It's great experience. I was a physical therapy aide (not a PTA). PA school would be pretty boring in a class with 50 CNAs. IMO. I'd do a cost-benefit analysis though (if you haven't already). Meaning, the cost of doing pre-reqs is both in money spent and in money not earned. For that to lead to a job in a field that is itself still a pre-requisite for yet another program (PA) seems like a very long, drawn out process to me. It would be one thing if you were already a PTA making a career change, but you're not. Why not just get your pre-requisites done for PA school and take a job now that doesn't require advanced schooling?
  10. We train minimum 12 weeks, sometimes longer if the hire needs extra time, and there is always another PA available (or a resident on the weekends). I would find out what the average census is and like everyone else said, talk to the other PAs. Also ask what the hours are during training. You will have a harder time if you’re working 12s during orientation. Would be better to start off with 8s or 10s to physically be there more frequently and get more exposure. I don’t think a month of training is enough for a new grad, but my patient population is complex and very sick. If that’s not the case with your service, a month might be ok.
  11. Who is doing it now, and why can't they train you?
  12. As far as I know, federal student loans like the kind you are talking about are granted on the basis of financial need. Credit scores don't have anything to do with it.
  13. Good. I say this with encouragement and positivity: grow a thicker skin. Earn the respect of your patients. You're in charge of your own learning as a professional. It'll be great.
  14. Hmm. You sound really smart. HCE might help with gaining and then expressing humility and compassion. You don't have any experience touching another human being, as far as I can tell. There are lots of ways to "help people" aside from PA. I think a job where you fulfill the physical needs of another person is valuable experience and can teach you a lot about yourself. It's very difficult to teach bedside manner. You can bet all those CNAs and PT aides who will work alongside you in the future will pick up on the dismissive "wiping asses" attitude. Anyway, I think you need some real hours shadowing PAs in a variety of specialties.
  15. There shouldn't be a difference in pay. Training a new employee is part of the business. I haven't ever been in this position but my gut says I would not accept a "training" rate. I had three months of orientation when I started four years ago, and I was paid as an employee because I WAS an employee.