tariesen Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Hello all! I graduate tomorrow and am happy to say I just received my first offer from an Urgent Care center. The initial offer: Starting at $42.25 per hour, contracted for 14 12-hour shifts per month working 8a-8p --> $85,178 annually, eligible for discretionary raise annually. 4 shifts per month are weekend shifts. No call. Time and a half for holidays. They close for Thanksgiving day and Christmas day. Opportunity to pick up extra shifts; get time and a half if working > 16 shifts per month Benefits: Medical offered at $62 per pay (low deductible) or $50 per pay (high deductible); dental and vision are about $2 each per pay (biweekly pay schedule). Retirement = 401k, they match to 4% starting with your first contribution. Vested at the day of enrollment. PTO = 3 days for first year, increases yearly to a max of 7 days. Vacation time is based on scheduling requests. Can request up to 7 days that you prefer not to work each month. I spoke with a former employee and was told that scheduling is pretty good with honoring requests. Also can switch shifts with other providers at sister UC sites. Bonuses offered every 6 months and based on RVUs, patient satisfaction scores, etc. CME: $1250 annually and increases $250 annually to max amount of $3250. No CME time given. Always working with a doc on site for every shift, thus BLS/ACLS/PALS and DEA licences aren't required for PAs and thus not paid for. Can use CME money towards getting any of the above licences. They will pay for DOT training. Training is 3 consecutive 12-hour shifts with an experienced PA, then seeing patients on own. As stated above, always a doc on site. My "home base" site has a doc who is willing to train new grads and additional assistance from a provider training specialist via phone as needed. Volume is roughly 37-76 patients per 12 hours max, particularly during the busy season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbeTheBabe Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Where is this? Pay seems to be on the low side for urgent care. How many patients are you expected to see? I know there's a doc on site, but training still seems pretty limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktheshark89 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Pay is lowish, pto is a joke, cme money is low and shouls get atleast a week for time, not sure how it makes sense to just have one provider certified in bls/acls etc when generally cpr goes better with two people than it does with one nvm the inevitability of a doc calling out sick one day. Dea is pricey and if you plan to do perdiem elsewhere something they will expect you to have. Other bennies, 401k, etc seem decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anewconvert Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Wait.... They won't pay for your DEA because there will be a doc there to write your scripts for you?? Am I understanding that right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted May 20, 2016 Moderator Share Posted May 20, 2016 Wait.... They won't pay for your DEA because there will be a doc there to write your scripts for you?? Am I understanding that right? agree, this is silly. so you have to go to them everytime you want to write an rx for cough syrup with codeine, sudafed(in many states), or tylenol w codeine? you would be in their office after probably 60% of your visits... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tariesen Posted May 20, 2016 Author Share Posted May 20, 2016 Yes, unless I was to pay for the license myself and write it off on taxes or use CME money...I don't agree with them not covering it - it's their way of saving money along with not covering any life support certs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dchampigny Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 As a fellow new grad, I would pass on this one! You need to know your worth. You're wanted by a lot of places and this place is giving you the run around. Not willing to pay your ACLS license? What the hell, what if the doc is out getting bagels for everyone in the morning and a code comes in. Not a safe working environment in my opinion. Also, three paid days off is laughable. CME is very low. I think what it really comes down to: if I was in your position and offered this job, my main question to myself would be, Would I really feel comfortable with just 3 shifts of training? What kind of vibe did you get from the facility? Do you feel like they would just toss you to the wolves after that third shift? Good luck! I think you're worth more than this offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tariesen Posted May 20, 2016 Author Share Posted May 20, 2016 I appreciate everyone's input. The low PTO is justified bc at 14 shifts per month, one would have 197 days off with flexible scheduling to work around vacations and such. I have an interview today with a family medicine practice where I rotated at for 8 weeks. Hope to get a better offer there - they have a good training foundation for new grads at this place. Fingers crossed for good news soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyhoundGirl Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 I appreciate everyone's input. The low PTO is justified bc at 14 shifts per month, one would have 197 days off with flexible scheduling to work around vacations and such. I have an interview today with a family medicine practice where I rotated at for 8 weeks. Hope to get a better offer there - they have a good training foundation for new grads at this place. Fingers crossed for good news soon! This is kind of a tangent, but I don't see how this is justified. You are working less days, but that's because the shifts are longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbum Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 The low PTO is justified bc at 14 shifts per month, one would have 197 days off with flexible scheduling to work around vacations and such. That's a load of BS. 14 shifts/month x 12 hours/shift x 12 months = 2,016 hours/year. 3 days PTO x 12 hours = 36 hours per year, or 1.8% of your hours. Compare that to a M-F 8-5 job = 2,080 hours/year x 1.8% = 37.44 hours PTO, or just under 1 week. That's a crap deal for ANY worker, much less a licensed professional with an advanced degree. Not being scheduled to work on a given day is not the same as being paid to not be there. I hope the other interview goes well for you...you certainly deserve better than this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted May 20, 2016 Moderator Share Posted May 20, 2016 The concept that fewer days worked= less PTO doesn't make sense. you are either a benefited employee or you aren't. at one of my jobs I work 80 hrs/month and get the same 14 days of PTO as someone working 18 days/month. also, as mentioned before, no acls/pals/cpr/dea should be a concern...especially with the substandard cme. if they were giving you 5000 for cme that would be different. also as medical professionals 100% of your medical/dental/vision for you and your family should be paid by your employer without required deductions every month from your pay. Seriously, walk away from this offer please....I had better offers 10 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tariesen Posted May 20, 2016 Author Share Posted May 20, 2016 Interview went well with FM today - hoping to hear something next week. Given all of your valuable feedback and knowing that there is much better out there for me, I will be passing on the above-mentioned UC offer. I'm so glad this forum is available. Thank you all for your experience and honest insight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyrical M Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 For what it's worth, a PA student rotating in the hospital I scribe in just accepted an offer here in CT. Urgent care, 3 12s per week. I don't know all the exact details, but starting pay is over $100,000. Additional CME pay and time. All fees paid. Full benefits. Doc always on site, good training and mentoring. And the whopper: 24 (or 27, can't remember which now) days PTO. Just so people know that offers like this are out there. I feel that many people with good, solid offers don't post them on here, so we tend to only see the "iffy" ones, thus skewing our perception of what typical offers are nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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