Moderator ventana Posted June 23, 2016 Moderator Share Posted June 23, 2016 Just a silly question, but one that I am interested in seeing results. Through the years I have seen the "glass ceiling" particularly in pay, but not in responsibility..... and have at times thought what it would be like to be the DOC not the PA. At this point I am basically to well established in my career to jump ship for anything but a very short bridge program to MD - which admittedly will never happen in my career So my question is two part with only one answer to be chosen..... How long (or short) do you think a School and Residency program should be to go from PA to MD/DO under the following assumptions: Fully Licensed PA with > 5 years experience in general IM field - office based PCP - no sub specialty experience, not ER or urgent care - just primary care Renewed PA license x1 already with score >50 percentile on PANRE (top 1/2 of PA field) Master's degree already earned PLEASE do not just answer 1 and 1 as a reflex answer. Doc's do know more and are tested on this broader knowledge, where PA is more roll up your sleeves and get the job done..... what I am looking for is an honest opinion of balancing the costs of giving up a profession to return to school, with the absolute need to gain a more indepth knowledge base to attain the MD/DO degree (please lets NOT make this a debate about that knowledge is actually needed to be a PCP these days - that is a different thread.....) So in my mind - right now I could see myself doing a one year academic and 2 year residency program to attain MD/DO - cost is about $500,000 to me do do this, but the payoff of doubling my salary would make it worth it in the last few years of my career and the professional satisfaction along with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinntsp Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 I would probably be willing to do 2/2 or 1/3. It would just be a matter of figuring out the best ratio for classwork vs clinical work to fill the knowledge gaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmiller3 Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 At my age (40), I would not do anything more than a 1/2, maybe 2/2. I don't have a huge interest anyway, though, so I am probably not your target audience. If I leave PA-life, it will be for a job outside the practice realm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceBanner Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 I don't love medicine enough to go through all that. Even if it were free....what does it get me? Another 4-5 years of my life lost to training, maybe $50k more a year, and then what? The same damn thing I'm doing now, just with a nice title and sicker patients. Pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebecker Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 I don't love medicine enough to go through all that. Even if it were free....what does it get me? Another 4-5 years of my life lost to training, maybe $50k more a year, and then what? The same damn thing I'm doing now, just with a nice title and sicker patients. Pass. And the "sicker patients" part is probably debatable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator rev ronin Posted June 23, 2016 Administrator Share Posted June 23, 2016 Why limit this to IM? I'd be interested in whether than could be done for FP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator ventana Posted June 23, 2016 Author Moderator Share Posted June 23, 2016 Why limit this to IM? I'd be interested in whether than could be done for FP. starting small.... as well - very few full practice FP's out there.... most just doing IM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check 2 Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 I am just in FP. Greater than 15 years JUST in FP with 25 years overall. MAYBE 1 yr didactic, 2 yr residency - MAYBE. Let me take the AAFP board exam (without OB) and THEN place me, not the other way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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