Guest JMPA Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Here is an interesting article for all. many points to be taken including the judgement and counter defamation lawsuit. http://www.outpatientsurgery.net/news/2011/12/20-Top-Cataract-Surgeon-s-Delegating-Didn-t-Defraud-Medicare-Court-Rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdtpac Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 *this is amazing! i wonder what some physicians would do if they knew that pas are opening chest, abdomen, closing almost any kind of wound, *inserting chest tubes and central lines, et cetera.* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andersenpa Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 An opthalmologist and a radiologist fighting over billing. The whole premise is rich with comedic possibilities.... What hurts us here is the practice being described as unsupervised. One more example of how the term "supervision" does more harm than good. Thankfully it details how the operation fell under the precise definition of supervision (not direct). As a funny side note the practice site describes them as both "Physican's Assistants" and "Physicians' Assistants"......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinntsp Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 In his March 2011 ruling, Judge Whittemore explained that federal law lets physicians bill Medicare for supervised PA services under certain circumstances, and that state medical rules define "direct supervision" as "immediately available to furnish assistance and direction throughout the performance of the procedure. It does not mean that the physician must be present in the room when the procedure is performed." Wait a sec...I thought PAs just coordinated care between the patient and surgeon. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2305 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 I didn't know PAs did cataract surgeries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator ventana Posted August 22, 2012 Moderator Share Posted August 22, 2012 would have the doctor that filed suit still have done this if we were Associates and not assistants? Just such a different connotation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andersenpa Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 I didn't know PAs did cataract surgeries. PAs do every type of surgery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andersenpa Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 would have the doctor that filed suit still have done this if we were Associates and not assistants? Just such a different connotation... A radiologist (who probably knows nothing of PAs) with a nurse wife? Yes he would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator True Anomaly Posted August 22, 2012 Moderator Share Posted August 22, 2012 A radiologist (who probably knows nothing of PAs) with a nurse wife? Yes he would. Agreed- this is more about a non-physician doing the surgery and the billing process behind it. Although the fact that it was a PA doing the surgery was a bit of a red herring in the suit, and the real meat was the billing behind it... I still bet it really stuck in this guy's crawl about a non-physician doing a surgical procedure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsfelder0417 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 I agree with andersenpa, the comedic value was awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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