Guest UVAPAC Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 I was wondering if you are able to "roll over" PI/SA CME Credits. For instance if you obtain 30 SA CME credits in a year, can you count those additional 10 credits towards the next "earning window" or do you have to obtain 20 more? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetMeOuttaThisMess Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 You'll have to ask NCCPA that I suspect but don't expect a straight forward answer to such a common sense question. I took only a twenty hour course for mine but I would like to know this answer (haven't looked around the NCCPA site for the answer). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest UVAPAC Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 You'll have to ask NCCPA that I suspect but don't expect a straight forward answer to such a common sense question. I took only a twenty hour course for mine but I would like to know this answer (haven't looked around the NCCPA site for the answer). Thank you for your email. In order to maintain your certification you will need to earn and log at least 100 CME credits, including at least 50 Category 1 CME credits. The remaining 50 credits can be Category 1, Category 2 or a combination of both. In addition, at least 20 of the 50 Category 1 CME credits must be earned through self-assessment CME and/or performance improvement CME. By the end of the first four two-year CME cycles, you must have earned a total of at least 40 credits through PI activities and 40 credits through SA activities. If you have already completed 30 this cycle you will just need to finish 10 more to meet the minimum of 20 required per cycle for your next cycle. In other words, you will need to have completed all 40-SA and 40 PI by December 31, 2022. Please always refer to your individual's online personal record to obtain the above information and more. Thank you for your email. Felicia Scott Certification Maintenance & Credentialing Specialist (Hope this helps!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moestown1016 Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 Anyone know of a place to do these modules at an affordable rate? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetMeOuttaThisMess Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 Rosh Review. Just check AAPA site to confirm that they are still approved and I would go a step further and start to log at NCCPA and see if it pulls the respective course up before registering for same. I had a situation where their accreditation for PC had expired though they were still AAPA website listed. Ended up getting credit after phone calls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest UVAPAC Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 By the way, I just got off of the phone with NCCPA, and the above e-mail (from the NCCPA) is incorrect. We are unable to roll over any PI/SA CME credits. You can only obtain 20 of PI or 20 of SA CME per year. Therefore if you complete 30 PI and 20 SA CME credits in a 2 year cycle, you technically lose the 10 PI CME. Very frustrating, and a large chunk of my yearly CME money lost on things not even applicable to my practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medic25 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Sounds like they've got some confusion. I knocked out 55 hours of SA CME (PEER VIII), and logged them all last year. My NCCPA dashboard shows that I've met the required 40 hours of SA due by the end of my 10 year cycle (complete with green checkmark for that category), with no mention of only counting 20 of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loliz Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 It all counts towards the requirements to recertify, but there are specific dates to earn CME that apply to each cycle. Since each cycle requires SA or PI credits, you must meet either of those within the "CME earning window" that is specified on your NCCPA page. To recertify at 10 year mark, you must meet the requirements of 40 credits of both SA and PI. It doesn't matter when those credits are earned. For example-- medic25, you may have met your certification requirement, but you will still need to get 20 credits of PI or SA during each 2 year cycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetMeOuttaThisMess Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 It all counts towards the requirements to recertify, but there are specific dates to earn CME that apply to each cycle. Since each cycle requires SA or PI credits, you must meet either of those within the "CME earning window" that is specified on your NCCPA page. To recertify at 10 year mark, you must meet the requirements of 40 credits of both SA and PI. It doesn't matter when those credits are earned. For example-- medic25, you may have met your certification requirement, but you will still need to get 20 credits of PI or SA during each 2 year cycle. Not necessarily the case as I understand it. I've seen nothing that says you couldn't accumulate all 80 hours, 40 of each, in one two year cycle since they apparently roll over. The only requirement is 40 of each every 10 years. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loliz Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 If you log into your NCCPA page, there will be tabs for cycle 1 and cycle 2 or whatever cycle you are on. In each of those tabs it states an "earning window" for the cycle. For example- my cycle 1 is 11/26-2014 thru 12/31/16 and cycle 2 states that the "CME earning window" is 5/01/2016 thru 12/31/2018. Maybe I am misinterpreting this...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator ventana Posted July 22, 2016 Moderator Share Posted July 22, 2016 WTH Why is there a thread I can not even understand about how MY PROFESSION needs to get CME This is pure and total BS I think the NCCPA is full-o-bull with this whole new way........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolute Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 I think the NCCPA is full-o-bull with this whole new way........ I concur... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest UVAPAC Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Not necessarily the case as I understand it. I've seen nothing that says you couldn't accumulate all 80 hours, 40 of each, in one two year cycle since they apparently roll over. The only requirement is 40 of each every 10 years. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. This is incorrect. I spoke with NCCPA on the phone, and was under the same impression as you. You need to accumulate 40 of each in a 10 year cycle... however 20 must occur in 4/5 of the 2 year cycles. You can not roll anything over. It is a ridiculous policy, and takes huge chunks from my CME allotment, so I can not attend conferences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetMeOuttaThisMess Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 This is incorrect. I spoke with NCCPA on the phone, and was under the same impression as you. You need to accumulate 40 of each in a 10 year cycle... however 20 must occur in 4/5 of the 2 year cycles. You can not roll anything over. It is a ridiculous policy, and takes huge chunks from my CME allotment, so I can not attend conferences. You're contradicting yourself from post #3 based on the email response from your initial inquiry. Do we believe the email or the phone contact? My response in #9 was based on the response you received in the afore mentioned email. I question if THEY even know. Your received response in #13 makes more sense if we think about it, but my state allows for rollover of excessive hours for license renewal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest UVAPAC Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 You're contradicting yourself from post #3 based on the email response from your initial inquiry. Do we believe the email or the phone contact? My response in #9 was based on the response you received in the afore mentioned email. I question if THEY even know. Your received response in #13 makes more sense if we think about it, but my state allows for rollover of excessive hours for license renewal. I realize it contradicts the previous e-mail I received. I wanted to ensure that I understood the initial e-mail correctly, so I e-mailed the NCCPA for a second time and got the opposite response. When I e-mailed them back stating it contradicted the first e-mail, they called me directly at my office. They said the initial e-mail was uncorrect, and the subsequent post I made is in fact the rule. Unfortunately I wasted a huge chunk of my CME money after receiving the first e-mail, which I will never get back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetMeOuttaThisMess Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Yep, another case of left/right hands not being on same page. Same for me last year with Rosh Review, though I was able to get all three parties involved and get approval for SA coursework. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contrarian Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 ^^^ ... NONE OF THAT MATTERS NOW ...!!!!!!!!!!They came to their senses: SA/PI -CME is no longer required...!!!!! Effective immediately ...!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest UVAPAC Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 ^^^ ... NONE OF THAT MATTERS NOW ...!!!!!!!!!! They came to their senses: SA/PI -CME is no longer required...!!!!! Effective immediately ...!! I am so glad I used the majority of my CME money on these credits over the past 2 years on CME that is essentially meaningless to me or my field! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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