jpagano Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Do ALL states require PA-C to take the PANRE or does CME satisfy the requirement? That is, are there some states that do not require PA-C to take the PANRE every 6 years and if so, is there a list? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andersenpa Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 PANRE is national, not state driven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpagano Posted November 4, 2011 Author Share Posted November 4, 2011 Thank you So is it possible that I misunderstood an ortho PA I shadowed when he told me he did NOT have to take the PANRE (i.e. for the state of Florida) to remain as a PA-C? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andersenpa Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 States may not require Re-certification for license. I'm not sure but I think most if not all require initial PANCE cert for license. So your ortho PA is right, but it's a state issue not NCCPA issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpagano Posted November 5, 2011 Author Share Posted November 5, 2011 I appreciate that... I understand that in order to become a PA-C one must pass the PANCE but as to what the requirements are for recertification--that is my main question.... I am having a difficult time finding what the requirements are (i.e. per state) for recertification. I appreciate your feedback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCMA79 Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 To keep the "C" you must maintain your cert with NCCPA. Some states do not require the "C" to maintain your license. If your state doesn't require the "C" you can drop your NCCPA cert and simply be a "PA". This varies from state to state so you need to determine what the regs are in your state. Do they require the "C" to maintain licensure or not and that is best determined by giving them a call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted November 5, 2011 Moderator Share Posted November 5, 2011 http://www.aapa.org/uploadedFiles/content/Common/Files/Requirements_for_Licensure.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpagano Posted November 5, 2011 Author Share Posted November 5, 2011 http://www.aapa.org/uploadedFiles/content/Common/Files/Requirements_for_Licensure.pdf AMEN. This is what I was looking for. I deeply appreciate it! Be well. I'd love to practice in AZ or TX.. I've heard AZ is very PA friendly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpagano Posted November 5, 2011 Author Share Posted November 5, 2011 http://www.aapa.org/uploadedFiles/content/Common/Files/Requirements_for_Licensure.pdf EMEDPA, in order to answer my question of determining which states require someone to take the PANRE should I be looking at the 4th (i.e. Current NCCPA Certification) or 5th (i.e. Renewal Requirements) column? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coloradopa Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 EMEDPA, in order to answer my question of determining which states require someone to take the PANRE should I be looking at the 4th (i.e. Current NCCPA Certification) or 5th (i.e. Renewal Requirements) column? The fourth NCCPA certification. The fifth refers to state requirements for continued licensure. Keep in mind that insurance companies or Medicare may require current NCCPA certification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpagano Posted November 6, 2011 Author Share Posted November 6, 2011 thanks coloradopa I was curious about the nature of maintaing certification because it seems that some people (i.e. on the forum) were having issues with the PANRE itself (i.e. failing it) saying that PAs shouldn't have to take it or that the test was not representative of primary care PA medicine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andersenpa Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 The recent rash of failures was a product of the test scoring system. Pass rates are usually high. The old test was more pirmary care based. There are now options to focus on more specific fields- surgery, adult medication etc. That aside, there is still a legit argument re: how effective the test is at evaluating competency, skills, and knowledge base. In my field the PANRE tests <10% of these things, and is a poor tool to evaluate my abilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coloradopa Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 thanks coloradopa I was curious about the nature of maintaing certification because it seems that some people (i.e. on the forum) were having issues with the PANRE itself (i.e. failing it) saying that PAs shouldn't have to take it or that the test was not representative of primary care PA medicine The test is thought to be representative of primary care (at least that's how its designed). While I will agree with Andersen that it tests a small portion of what for example a CVS PA does, by making sure we are minimally competent in general medicine it allows us to move freely within all areas of medicine (IMO). Even with the focused test, 60% of the test is on general medicine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpagano Posted November 7, 2011 Author Share Posted November 7, 2011 Andersen and Colorado: Thank you for your replies. After having read the PANRE posts I was beginning to get uneasy about PA education since I'm scheduled to start next summer, but after having read more posts (i.e. including yours) I feel better. Hopefully the scoring anomaly won't happen again But there does seem to be a general consensus that the PANRE is more appropriate for primary care PAs and less for other specialities--but there are only a few states that don't require it to maintain certification. So it seems that most PAs HAVE to take it. So I guess for me the best thing to do is focus on PA school, then the PANCE and between that time find the best state/environment to practice medicine in as a PA. Great Discussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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