johnN Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 kaplan courses have question banks that LITERALLY CAME OUT OF PREVIOUS EXAMS. good sources for practice, ? several hundreds dollars to join. kaplan.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ex01954 Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 Thank you so much for your helpful recommendations. I will definitely try them. I really appreciate the time you took to respond to my posting. I wish you all the success!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LESH Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 kaplan courses have question banks that LITERALLY CAME OUT OF PREVIOUS EXAMS. good sources for practice, ? several hundreds dollars to join.kaplan.com JohnN When you state "Literally came out of Previous exams" are you referring to the PANCE, PANRE or Pathway II? Please cite the source of this information. Does this mean that the NCCPA is selling retired test questions to Kaplan or does Kaplan use the same test writers that the NCCPA uses? How does that work? Just curious. I didn't see where the link you provided made mention of this... LesH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidnid Posted May 4, 2008 Share Posted May 4, 2008 Hey guys, I think its VERY IMPORTANT legally and ethically, that we should not mention about the whereabouts of the PANCE, PANRE AND pathway II exams questions!!!!!...... by saying "LITERALLY CAME OUT OF PREVIOUS EXAMS" quote from John, would get people into trouble!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOP Posted May 4, 2008 Share Posted May 4, 2008 This may sound like a dumb question, but did the OP ever pass the test? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LESH Posted May 4, 2008 Share Posted May 4, 2008 Hey guys, I think its VERY IMPORTANT legally and ethically, that we should not mention about the whereabouts of the PANCE, PANRE AND pathway II exams questions!!!!!...... by saying "LITERALLY CAME OUT OF PREVIOUS EXAMS" quote from John, would get people into trouble!! Dear Kidnid Thank you for your post. I agree that NCCPA materials should not be discussed. What I am getting at is that I believe JohnN's statement is confusing.Considering the great lenghts that the NCCPA goes through to maintain the integrity of the process. Unless of course the NCCPA sold retired test questions to Kaplan or test writers for the NCCPA are also writing for Kaplan and they have provided test questions that are on the PANCE, PANRE or Pathway II. Either way, something like that would be interesting to know for all stakeholders involved. Don't you agree? If questions are not retired and appear both in the current exams and in a "prep book or course" there is a problem. Don't you agree? Just asking. Clarification is needed concerning "previous exams" vs "retired exams". A previous exam may still be used in a testing cycle. A retired exam is just that I believe, put out to pasture. Still curious LesH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidnid Posted May 4, 2008 Share Posted May 4, 2008 well...........I dont know about all that!......... all i know is that i should not talk about the questions!!..........haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LESH Posted May 4, 2008 Share Posted May 4, 2008 well...........I dont know about all that!......... all i know is that i should not talk about the questions!!..........haha Fair enough. LesH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gramdm Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Hi Chris: I am studying for the boards. Did you post your questions yet? Can I get a copy to. Thanks Dawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnN Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 sorry for the confusions my mistakes, I've heard that Kaplan have questions that are VERY SIMILIAR TO THE previous PANRE/PANCE test questions. I don't know if there are any things that are hidden below the table between the two groups. The other PA-Cs/MDs at our practice told me that they joined KAPLAN to study for USMLE + PANRE and they found this very helpful. I think it's reasonable to join kaplan if you want to do well if you have a few extra hundred $$ good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest deithomas Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 hi! just came across this thread and was wondering if you still have those notes? I really hope so! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zxcvbnm Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Hello Kim, I am very sorry to hear your story! I tried to do PANCE once but did not make it and afraid to take it for the 2nd time. I have tried to study differently and I am getting better. Do you want to talk? My email address is loveorangerose@yahoo.com. Hope to hear from you soon Kim! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest suncrest57 Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 I have tried the PANCE several times myself. My problem is that I cannot figure out what they are asking me. When I read the questions, it all seems like a bunch of jumbled words that make no sense or have any meaning. It is almost as if I am dyslexic but I had myself tested and they didn't find any problems. Any suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainiac Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 I have tried the PANCE several times myself. My problem is that I cannot figure out what they are asking me. When I read the questions, it all seems like a bunch of jumbled words that make no sense or have any meaning. It is almost as if I am dyslexic but I had myself tested and they didn't find any problems. Any suggestions? Sorry Suncrest, Can you give some more details? 1. your prep 2. changes to your prep after each try? 3. How you did on PA exams? 4. What ever else to know to give you suggestions.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caldje Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 I have tried the PANCE several times myself. My problem is that I cannot figure out what they are asking me. When I read the questions, it all seems like a bunch of jumbled words that make no sense or have any meaning. It is almost as if I am dyslexic but I had myself tested and they didn't find any problems. Any suggestions? Also, can you give an example of a question and how you 'couldn't understand what they were asking you"? There are certain KEYS in patients history that you have to look for. Just like in real life. What makes the pain better? Why are they telling you this piece of information that SEEMS irrelevant. My experience was that the PANCE was very straightforward like they say it is. Its not trying to trick you. If they are giving you a 'strange' piece of information, CONSIDER it.. Example: If your question was a patient came in complaining of fatigue, hair thinning, weight gain and they told you they were on a healthy diet that included low fat, low cal foodsand to decrease their sodium intake they are using sea salt instead of table salt.. Why do you think the test told you all of that? Would the answer be a. depression b. thyroid c. anorexia d. anemia Well, when you KNOW that sea salt doesnt contain iodine and that iodine deficiency cause hypothyroidism and goiter THEN you would be able to pick out that relevant information and understand what they are asking. I know its harsh, but as a PA-C now.... I STILL stand by the statement that the best way to pass the PANCE is to KNOW THE INFORMATION. Failing the PANCE, although sometimes due to valid dissability (which could have been accomodated if true) is probably due to simply not knowing the information. Yes, its harder for some than others.. But at some point we just have to sit and study our butts off. and if thats not enough.. study more AND in a different way, actively engaging the material. chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest suncrest57 Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 I think we all suffer a bit of anxiety or "freak out" in certain situations. I think that when it comes to test taking, "freaking out" = they were having great difficulty (anxiety, sweating, palpitaions etc... not freaking out to the point of being incoherent or running around screaming "the sky is falling". I don't think it equates in any way to treating patients effectively. Moreover, the person who has some anxiety may be more likely to ask for help versus someone who is so confident in their abilities that they cannot admit they need help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Equusz Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 I wonder how the OP did or if she has taken the PANCE for the 4th time. I was reading through Oregon's PA scope and it says if you fail the PANCE 4 times you will not be licensed in Oregon. Kinda scary, but I don't intend to fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeSpa Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 any updates on the 6th try? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
late_bloomer Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Please say you passed.. but no response might mean the worse :( Good Luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest babylucky1818 Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 Hello Chris: Would you please so kind to send your questions to sunnyflower1818@yahoo.com? Greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest humesc99 Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Hi Chris, Studying for the Pance, would you please send your questions to humesc99@yahoo.com? Thanks a bunch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finallypaC Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 TIPS on how I passed PANCE on the 2nd attempt. I went from 300 to 500 score I really want to thank PA Forum a million times over for giving me advice and support. I want to return the favor and help all worried PA ‘s with the PANCE. I failed the first time I took the PANCE. It killed me inside. My worst nightmare had come true! I was crying and went into major depression mode. I was truly rethinking of changing careers and saying goodbye to the PA field forever. My first time studying I did the CME Resources in Chicago and the AAPA purple book and some former PA notes. I did not truly understand the concept of each disease but just memorized the facts. I have a photographic memory and I can memorize charts and diagrams really well but that’s not enough to pass PANCE. My biggest setback was the lack of confidence and extreme panic for the test. I was so extremely terrified of failing that I focused on that so much it is what I ended up doing…failing. On top of taking the PANCE too early, in which I studied for about 6 weeks right after I graduated while still working part time, planning my wedding, and other distractions. I didn’t fully commit the time and work like I should had. Tips for success: Take the test after 2-3 months of studying at least 4-6hrs. Don’t do more than 8 hours. I liked what Iain1028 said. I made a plan on how to cover all the 13 topics which are on the blue print. I read each system from both books Usmle step 2 and Van Rhee on one day, took the test on those and then read them the next day and took the test again. It did really help. I read a lot and also practiced lot of questions. Get your hands on Datachem, packrats (I have some just email me), I liked the Appleton &Lange Yellow itouch application, the Green Van Rhee book, AAPA pretest, Exam masters (this is KEY) and USMLE STEP 2. Take your first month and study according to NCCPA Blue print and get through the USMLE STEP 2 review book. Review what you just learned before moving on. Make sure that you can write on a blank sheet of paper exam signs and sym, key lab values and tx for each disease. It’s a lot of work but it will help you at the end. After studying a organ system from Van Rhee or USMLE step 2 do a practice test from Appleton and Lange/DataChem/Exam masters that is relevant to what you’ve just study. Go over your wrong answers and figure out why you got it wrong. Also, look at the PA forum for PANCE BUZZWORDs/WORD ASSOC. These were helpful during the test, it triggered words that were precise to the disease. The second month you should do questions and then do more questions. Do the practice tests on Datachem and Appleton and Lange, and especially Exam masters! (Some questions were much harder than PANCE Qs but its critical thinking and it will help you understand concepts. Exam masters is really hard I only scored 65%-75% but keep using this because it will prepare you for PANCE. If I had exam masters the first time then I would have passed. Exam masters is all about critical thinking which is key to passing PANCE. Here are my scores: AAPA book pretest: 75.% pance exam had questions from the pretest AAPA book posttest: 79% Datachem: Scored between 80% and 85% on each subject area (average of the entire CD was about 82%) Lange Q&A: Scored between 70% and 75% in each subject area. Exam master: Did 85% of the questions: Scored between 59% and 75% on each subject area (average of what I did was 65%) NCCPA self-assessment: Scored “high” proficiency in all areas except Cardio and GI going a into into the “borderline” proficiency block 2 weeks before the PANCE. So I concentrated on those 2 subjects. Packrats-I was scoring above 80% when I felt confident in taking the PANCE exam. You will get to the point when you are close to your test date and you will panic that you have not learned enough or you are running out of time. Relax and assess your strengths and weakness. Focus on Cardio, GI, MUSK, Pulmo and HEENT and Repro. You have 24hrs to postpone your test if you feel you are not ready. Although do not keep rescheduling your exam. Really commit to a date. If you are still scoring at or below 60% on your practice tests you need to do more reviewing. If you are at least a 75% in Datachem and AAPA pre and post exam you might do okay on PANCE. I was scoring 75% AAPA post test and 85% Datachem, 7 days before I took PANCE. The most important advice I can give you is to have confidence in yourself! Remain calm so you can think clearly without second guessing yourself. Don’t overanalyze! You came this far and you will achieve your goals. Don’t give up, stay positive before and after, and especially during! Pray if you have to (this is what got me through). Believe in yourself. You made in through PA school and its just one more day of hard work and focus! Don’t let anything stand in your way not even this exam, you can do it. Good Luck! I took my exam on Monday and didn’t sleep because I didnt feel confident! Finally on Thursday at 5:30am I found out I passed! It’s the best feeling in the world! I really feel like a ton of bricks has been lifted off my shoulders. I feel like the gray cloud of worry and doom is no longer looming over the top of my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAdamsPAC Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 I would like those who failed the PANCE to reveal which credentials they received upon graduating from PA school( AS,BS,MS, Certificate). Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJPATEL Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 Hi Chris, I am about to take my PANCE in few months and just read your posts. It seems that it would be helpful if I go through some exam material thoroughly. So, Just was wondering if you would be able to send me your practice questions file @ koms2010@hotmail.com I will greatly appreciate it. Thank You! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vickitoria Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Hi chris, I too will be taking the PANCE in a few months. May you please send me your practice questions file to VickitoriaV19@hotmail.com. Appreciate it!!! Thank you sooo much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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