NightOwl Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Hi....I am a new grad and is looking for job. Should I get my DEA now or wait to get a job and then get it. I haven't taken the controlled substance class either. I would appreciate some advice from all the experience PAs out there. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator rev ronin Posted February 1, 2013 Administrator Share Posted February 1, 2013 Get it. The money it costs you--and OUCH does it--will be quickly made up in a week's pay, and I'm willing to wager that ALREADY having your DEA will cut more than a week off of your average job search time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcdavis Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 IF you are sure which state you will be in, and IF The DEA in that state allows you to list your home address as a business address on the form ( eg all of my DEAs required that I have a medical business address which with the DEA will be "attached"), then go ahead and apply for one. Otherwise, wait until you actually have a position, then apply. The process is not all that long ( much shorter than most credentialling processes). Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kittykatufl Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 It might be best to wait. In some states they will not give you a DEA# until you have a supervisory agreement approved by the state. If they deny it you are out $700. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paula Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 I agree, wait until you are employed. Some employers will pay for the DEA out of their CME or benefit packages. Some will also pay for memberships to your state or national PA organizations. Plus, if you don't know which state you will be working in, you will not know what privileges the state PA laws give for you controlled substance classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contrarian Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Invest in YOU... Who gets hired..??? The PA that can start tomorrow and prescribe or the PA that can only sit around and serve as a overpaid MA for weeks to months. Get it ASAP and write it off on next yrs taxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcdavis Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 H Invest in YOU...Who gets hired..??? The PA that can start tomorrow and prescribe or the PA that can only sit around and serve as a overpaid MA for weeks to months. Get it ASAP and write it off on next yrs taxes. But c, As a new grad, who has not had a DEA before, I do not think he is able to get a DEA. Before he has a job, or before he has even a state license. I believe that he has to wait. Otherwise I agree with the sentiment. RC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jen0508 Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 in my state you cant get a DEA until u have a permanent (not temporary) state license and an employer. One thing to keep in mind, I could not send in my application for credenetialling at my hospitals until i had a DEA number. It only took a couple days to get the DEA after submitting the application. If i were you, I would have the DEA app filled out and ready to go (and if u have to take a class, take it now), so that as soon as you get your license and sign a contract, you can subit your DEA application asap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemegroup Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Yup, definitely get the CS course out of the way ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paula Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 I couldn't get my DEA for WI until I had an address connected with a clinic/hospital and could not use my own address. In MI I needed to have a physician delegation agreement on file before getting the license. Check you state laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iman Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 I'm glad we are bringing up this subject ... how about when a PA got DEA when was employed but then quit and looking for another job? there would be a gap btw the 2 jobs ! .. would they accpet to use the home address in this case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcdavis Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Generally, the rule is that you keep it there until you get a new position.. Then you notify the DEA with a change of business address... As for actually getting a copy of the license, you can print it out from their website. I am on staff on several hospitals in one state and the DEA only lists one of them. Capice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iman Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 capice :) ... thank you so much that make total sense to me ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JL9285 Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Sorry this a bit off topic...but can you be licensed iin 2 states concurrently . I'm in a situation in which I not sure which of the two states I will practice. It really depends the job. Any the appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcdavis Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Sorry this a bit off topic...but can you be licensed iin 2 states concurrently . I'm in a situation in which I not sure which of the two states I will practice. It really depends the job. Any the appreciated! Yes you can. I have separate DEAs in NC and in SC. different numbers, different authority (nc schd 2-5, sc schd 3-5). I have to use the SC DEA in SC, and the NC DEA in NC. rule still applies that, for original DEA in a state, you have to have a business address... Clinic or hospital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasip Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 I don't believe that you can get it in Texas either without approval of your SP. I may be wrong but I don't have mine since it wasn't available when I was in the ED and my current position prefers not to prescribe narcotics, which is fine by me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoClinic4Me Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 I couldn't get my DEA for WI until I had an address connected with a clinic/hospital and could not use my own address. In MI I needed to have a physician delegation agreement on file before getting the license. Check you state laws. Hmm, that's odd. I've had my DEA with my home address on it for the entire 13 years I've had one. I do and have always practiced in WI. :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paula Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Hmm, that's odd. I've had my DEA with my home address on it for the entire 13 years I've had one. I do and have always practiced in WI. :confused: Really? Have I been filling out the DEA license application wrong? I'm not renewing my WI DEA when it expires as it is too expensive to pay for two DEA licenses anyway, and I now work over the border in MI. I'll keep my state license tho, just in case!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightOwl Posted March 7, 2013 Author Share Posted March 7, 2013 If my clinic does NOT prescribe any controlled substance. The highest they go is tramadol. Do I still need to registered with DEA to prescribe non-controlled substance medication? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcdavis Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 If my clinic does NOT prescribe any controlled substance. The highest they go is tramadol. Do I still need to registered with DEA to prescribe non-controlled substance medication? IF YOUR SP AGREES with you having the DEA, ( and understanding that you will not be using it), go ahead and get it. The drug stores like to use it for quickie ID, ( as opposed to UPIN/NPI). Never hurts to have it. You may have to pay for it yourself ...$731/3year license. But I 'd venture to guess sometime in te next 3 years you will be very glad that you have it. (late note: sorry, I did not address te question: no, you do not need a DEA to prescribe any non scheduled medication) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradtPA Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 If my clinic does NOT prescribe any controlled substance. The highest they go is tramadol. Do I still need to registered with DEA to prescribe non-controlled substance medication? No, you will not need it. But even simple schedule Vs like lomotil will then be off-limits.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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