Moderator ventana Posted December 5, 2022 Moderator Share Posted December 5, 2022 Got talking with a peer today lots of thoughts thrown around but one question came I could not answer. 10 yr pcp pa still loves in office exam time but starting to strongly dislike admin. seems the hospital system piles more responsibility onto pa/np with out pay. Ie call. Committee work. With the statement of “the docs do this”. But when asked for pay to do these work responsibilities (they take time) they are told by admin “the docs don’t get paid for them” but when asking for a raise or even to model comp off a similar model to docs their are being told “you are not a doc, your are salary” They still love time with patients but are about to quiet quit or outright quit over this selective loading more work by admin with no pay. They asked if I thought they we burned out? threw me for a loop. They say there still love medicine, but describe burnout. obviously employer stinky but I struggled with advice for them. Job change would be really hard for them. thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator rev ronin Posted December 5, 2022 Administrator Share Posted December 5, 2022 Taken the Maslach Burnout Inventory? https://hbr.org/2021/03/how-to-measure-burnout-accurately-and-ethically Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAAdmission Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 10 hours ago, ventana said: starting to strongly dislike admin. LOL. I'm at the point where I worry about someone who doesn't. It's a bunch of parasitic non-revenue producers trying to suck every dollar out of patient interactions so they can get Christmas bonuses. I hold them in the same high regard one holds a tick. Are there other clinicians that feel the same way? There is strength in numbers. As to the committee work, there are two approaches I have used. One is, as suggested, slow-walk the work. Be present and polite, and that is about it. The other approach is to become a forceful advocate for PAs in the practice. Consume as much time as possible every meeting trying to make life better. If it is a larger group that uses something like Robert's Rules of Order to run meetings, learn the rules and you can more or less run the meeting. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SedRate Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 I don't think so. Sounds like a reasonable response to their situation and ever-increasing admin burden without increase in pay or decrease in current workload to accommodate increased admin workload. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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