No contracts for mid levels in NY?

[bears610]

During my phone interview, I was told that mid levels don't receive contracts.  "NY is an at will state".  If no contract, then what does that mean?   lol i hope this isn't a stupid question. Just new to all of this contract stuff. 

 

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

[rev ronin]

Washington is an at-will state too.  I still have had contracts in both of the non-locums jobs I have had.

The real reason is probably that PAs are a dime a dozen in NYC, so likely considered oversupplied statewide.

[Reality Check 2]

Corporate employers often treat PAs as Employees while physicians are contracted.

 

It can be good and bad. 

 

Bad - you are a revenue producing unit in a big machine who can easily be replaced and you have no negotiating power. You likely get the same package every other PA gets and your income is based on some strange math calculation based on years experience in that field and there is a department range. I am at the top of the range at 25 years with really nowhere to go.

 

Good (?) - you can go to work, do work and often go home - perhaps shift work. But again you can't negotiate and may feel powerless and not respected as an actual provider. 

 

I agree that it means the market is probably flooded so they don't have to mess with contracts and non-competes and such.Without a contract, less fuss and muss.

 

I think every PA should have a contract because we ARE a provider and we are vested in the practice.

[bears610]

Corporate employers often treat PAs as Employees while physicians are contracted.

 

It can be good and bad. 

 

Bad - you are a revenue producing unit in a big machine who can easily be replaced and you have no negotiating power. You likely get the same package every other PA gets and your income is based on some strange math calculation based on years experience in that field and there is a department range. I am at the top of the range at 25 years with really nowhere to go.

 

Good (?) - you can go to work, do work and often go home - perhaps shift work. But again you can't negotiate and may feel powerless and not respected as an actual provider. 

 

I agree that it means the market is probably flooded so they don't have to mess with contracts and non-competes and such.Without a contract, less fuss and muss.

 

I think every PA should have a contract because we ARE a provider and we are vested in the practice.

 

 

Washington is an at-will state too.  I still have had contracts in both of the non-locums jobs I have had.

The real reason is probably that PAs are a dime a dozen in NYC, so likely considered oversupplied statewide.

 

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