winterallsummer Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 What do you guys think???? I found it online $100 but debating if it's useful. I got the CMDT and three of the highly recommended review books. So Harrison's as well or no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted November 6, 2012 Moderator Share Posted November 6, 2012 I like cecil's better. harrison's is the choice of internists, cecil's is the choice of primary care folks. http://www.amazon.com/Cecil-Textbook-Medicine-2-Volume-Set/dp/0721679951 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterallsummer Posted November 6, 2012 Author Share Posted November 6, 2012 Aaaah well thing is they told us questions will be pulled from Harrison's. Will Cecil's be close enough? Price is literally 100x better!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted November 6, 2012 Moderator Share Posted November 6, 2012 if they told you harrison's then that is what you need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterallsummer Posted November 6, 2012 Author Share Posted November 6, 2012 Also is 22nd the newest edition of Cecil's? K so you think I should shell out the cash and get Harrison's? IDK how different the two books are but from the reviews Cecil's sounds more readable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted November 6, 2012 Moderator Share Posted November 6, 2012 don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterallsummer Posted November 6, 2012 Author Share Posted November 6, 2012 Alrighty thanks for the advice. I'll look into Cecil's. For other PAs and PA-Ss, did you guys read Harrison's?? If so useful or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterallsummer Posted November 6, 2012 Author Share Posted November 6, 2012 Also any opinion on Davidson's Textbook of Medicine anyone??? http://www.amazon.com/Davidsons-Principles-Practice-Medicine-STUDENT/dp/0443100578/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1352233597&sr=1-1&keywords=0443100578 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted November 6, 2012 Moderator Share Posted November 6, 2012 the best way to decide which book to buy is this: go to a university bookstore. grab every textbook of medicine there(probably 3-4). look up the same topic in each. I looked up hypothyroidism. read the section and see which you understand best. pick the book that seems the most clear. to me this was a no brainer. cecil's was straightforward, talked about the sx, dx, labs, physical findings, and management while harrison's went off on a description of the biochemical basis of hypothyroidism and anything remotely clinical was more of a side note. as a side note I think you will find folks who truly "like" harrison's are more academic while those who like cecil's are more clinical. scientist vs clinician/provider. I could care less where the genetic marker is for hypothyroidism is, I want to know how to recognize, dx, and tx it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PYRITE Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Also consider the electronic versions. I believe both Harrison's and Cecil's are available through inkling. It beats lugging them around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpSite Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I haven't graduated yet, but I'm partial to the 5 Minute Consult (on the recommendation of a professor). It gives everything in 1-2 pages from etiology to pathophys to treatment to pt education and follow up. I think I've opened Harrison's twice (once for a project and once for my Master's thesis). Maybe once in practice, I'll find it more useful?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crystaltide Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 the best way to decide which book to buy is this:go to a university bookstore. grab every textbook of medicine there(probably 3-4). look up the same topic in each. I looked up hypothyroidism. read the section and see which you understand best. pick the book that seems the most clear. to me this was a no brainer. cecil's was straightforward, talked about the sx, dx, labs, physical findings, and management while harrison's went off on a description of the biochemical basis of hypothyroidism and anything remotely clinical was more of a side note. as a side note I think you will find folks who truly "like" harrison's are more academic while those who like cecil's are more clinical. scientist vs clinician/provider. I could care less where the genetic marker is for hypothyroidism is, I want to know how to recognize, dx, and tx it. I just did this exact thing recently...I was mildly appalled at how little information Harrison's had about women's health. I'll be going with Cecil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterallsummer Posted November 6, 2012 Author Share Posted November 6, 2012 does anyone know if it's the 2004 22nd edition http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0721679951/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&condition=used or the "expert" 24th edition? http://www.amazon.com/Goldmans-Medicine-Expert-Consult-Premium/dp/1437727883/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1352245102&sr=1-1&keywords=cecil+medicine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crystaltide Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 The 2011 edition of Cecil is the most recent, whichever that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primadonna22274 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I will submit that you need ONE very thorough medicine reference. Harrison's fits this bill. For readability, I like Cecil's Essentials of Medicine...quite a bit cheaper too. CMDT is a good "quick" reference but not nearly complete enough for many complex topics. And PLEASE, DO read...you can only learn so much from PowerPoint lectures in class. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator rev ronin Posted November 7, 2012 Administrator Share Posted November 7, 2012 I find that, in practice, I have Harrison's on the shelf, but UpToDate at my fingertips... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zepoPA Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 I read Harrison's to fully UNDERSTAND illnesses. Then reviewed Cecil's PRN. And, the 5min clin consult is just that: nothing more than a quick review at your fingertips which will not be of much use when diagnosing the atypical presentation cases or multiple symptom/complication patients of the real world in a busy practice. Agree with posters above. Primarily IM/GP, not the best choice for Women's Care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPa695 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Our school's library offered Harrison's online.. which was a huge help when I needed to read for class!! I'm sure you would have heard already if that was the case for your school, but it's worth a shot to check? It was under Databases on the library website, and you just needed to log in with your school ID and password. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPa695 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Also, another book that I found extremely helpful was just called Primary Care Medicine- (http://www.amazon.com/Primary-Care-Medicine-Evaluation-Management/dp/0781775132/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top) ... topics are presented by chief complaint, and a thorough workup and treatment plan/patient ed are summarized within each topic. We were told to purchase this for class. I haven't come across anyone else who uses it but I thought it was great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpSite Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 I read Harrison's to fully UNDERSTAND illnesses. Then reviewed Cecil's PRN. And, the 5min clin consult is just that: nothing more than a quick review at your fingertips which will not be of much use when diagnosing the atypical presentation cases or multiple symptom/complication patients of the real world in a busy practice. Agree with posters above. Primarily IM/GP, not the best choice for Women's Care. I'm SO glad to hear that b/c I've been feeling like it might not have been such a good purchase. Thanks bunches for the insight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkrumm Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Also, another book that I found extremely helpful was just called Primary Care Medicine- (http://www.amazon.com/Primary-Care-Medicine-Evaluation-Management/dp/0781775132/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top) ... topics are presented by chief complaint, and a thorough workup and treatment plan/patient ed are summarized within each topic. We were told to purchase this for class. I haven't come across anyone else who uses it but I thought it was great! I agree! I have really loved this book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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