sleepingbeautyyyyy Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Hello all! A classmate and friend recently applied to a residency and after applying was told that if accepted, they would have to sign a 1-year contract stating they would stay employed with the hospital after completion of the residency. I am interested in this same program but I'm wondering is this a red flag? Of course it's good to be employed, but is this normal for most residences? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted September 11, 2020 Moderator Share Posted September 11, 2020 is this a real residency or a "we will train you to be an ER PA and pay you half salary for a year" position? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepingbeautyyyyy Posted September 11, 2020 Author Share Posted September 11, 2020 22 minutes ago, EMEDPA said: is this a real residency or a "we will train you to be an ER PA and pay you half salary for a year" position? It's a real residency that's on APPAP.org! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator LT_Oneal_PAC Posted September 11, 2020 Moderator Share Posted September 11, 2020 1 hour ago, sleepingbeautyyyyy said: It's a real residency that's on APPAP.org! This does not make it a residency necessarily. The fact it has a sign on requirement makes me think that it isn’t. It is most certainly a red flag. Could help more if we learn which one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dphy83 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 I suspect I know which one is being referred to, though there may be several like this. But i think the one in question is a critical care one at a very legit institution. The education is probably top notch. While off-putting, I'm surprised more programs don't do more to retain their residents after all that is invested. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator LT_Oneal_PAC Posted September 14, 2020 Moderator Share Posted September 14, 2020 42 minutes ago, dphy83 said: I suspect I know which one is being referred to, though there may be several like this. But i think the one in question is a critical care one at a very legit institution. The education is probably top notch. While off-putting, I'm surprised more programs don't do more to retain their residents after all that is invested. I am now aware of the program. Regardless of its status or the education provided, which I believe is high, I disagree with any contract that forces you to stay at that institution. There is always a reason they have difficulty retaining providers, especially in desirable urban locations. There is nothing someone can offer that is worth removing your freedom of choice. I've been in this situation. Trust me. Nothing is worth being able to quit your job when they aren't treating you right. If they want to retain their residents, offer a good package, perks, advancement structure, or something to help you stand out to the resident, not lock them in. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dphy83 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 6 hours ago, LT_Oneal_PAC said: I am now aware of the program. Regardless of its status or the education provided, which I believe is high, I disagree with any contract that forces you to stay at that institution. There is always a reason they have difficulty retaining providers, especially in desirable urban locations. There is nothing someone can offer that is worth removing your freedom of choice. I've been in this situation. Trust me. Nothing is worth being able to quit your job when they aren't treating you right. If they want to retain their residents, offer a good package, perks, advancement structure, or something to help you stand out to the resident, not lock them in. Oh, I agree. I looked at this very program and moved on. My point about trying to retain their graduates was more about offering a retention bonus and not strong arming them into staying. I agree with you 100% 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepingbeautyyyyy Posted September 17, 2020 Author Share Posted September 17, 2020 On 9/14/2020 at 6:25 PM, dphy83 said: Oh, I agree. I looked at this very program and moved on. My point about trying to retain their graduates was more about offering a retention bonus and not strong arming them into staying. I agree with you 100% Was the commitment apart of the "moved on"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dphy83 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 5 hours ago, sleepingbeautyyyyy said: Was the commitment apart of the "moved on"? Entirely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator LT_Oneal_PAC Posted September 17, 2020 Moderator Share Posted September 17, 2020 On 9/14/2020 at 8:25 PM, dphy83 said: Oh, I agree. I looked at this very program and moved on. My point about trying to retain their graduates was more about offering a retention bonus and not strong arming them into staying. I agree with you 100% What’s more devious is they don’t list this on their site or other informational materials. It wasn’t until you get to accepting the offer they say: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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