andersenpa Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 What do you all think of this....the joint monograph from the ACP, from 2010. In particular, the 6 key position statements: 1. AAPA and ACP believe that physicians and PAs working together in a team-oriented practice, such as the patient-centered medical home, is a proven model for delivering high-quality, cost-effective patient care. National and state legal, regulatory, and reimbursement policies should recognize that PAs function as primary care providers in the patient-centered medical home as part of a multidisciplinary clinical team led by a physician. 2. AAPA and ACP encourage training programs from both professions to promote and support opportunities for internists to precept PA students and participate as faculty at PA programs. 3. AAPA and ACP encourage interdisciplinary education of physicians- in-training and PA students throughout their educational programs. 4. AAPA and ACP should continue to be represented on the accrediting and certification bodies of the PA profession (ARC-PA and NCCPA). 5. AAPA and ACP encourage the creation of an interdisciplinary task force on workforce development. Workforce policies should ensure adequate supplies of primary care physicians and PAs to improve access to quality care and to avert anticipated shortages of primary care clinicians for adults. Workforce policies should recognize that training more PAs does not eliminate the need nor substitute for increasing the numbers of general internists and family physicians trained to provide primary care. 6. AAPA and ACP encourage flexibility in federal and state regulation so that each medical practice determines appropriate clinical roles within the medical team, physician-to-PA ratios, and supervision processes, enabling each clinician to work to the fullest extent of his or her license and expertise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebecker Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 #6 seems to be an afterthought... as if to say, "What about those clinics who want to utilize PAs to a greater extent?" and cover this contingency. I'd like to see #6 be more of the center of the thinking around this position statement. As it is, #1 is the emphasis - key phrases like, "part of a team," and, "led by a physician," in a way pigeon-hole PAs to a "back row" position and I don't believe that having this as the emphasis is helping PAs a lot. CMS can grab hold of this and basically say that they'll only pay for PA services if they are a part of that "team" with physician leadership - leaving those of us who practice without a physician 90% of the time in some trouble (I mention this as a possible drawback from the position statement). Whereas if they had emphasized #6 over #1, then CMS would have little or no ammo to withhold payments that are due us, and PAs would be getting a much greater show of support from the ACP. In all, I think that the position statement is merely adequate and that our physician colleagues could do a lot better to show their support for us. That's my thought, but I tend to read everything with a bit of a skeptical eye these days. Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted September 20, 2011 Moderator Share Posted September 20, 2011 looks ok to me. much better than some other "physician " statements re: pa's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andersenpa Posted September 20, 2011 Author Share Posted September 20, 2011 As it is, #1 is the emphasis - key phrases like, "part of a team," and, "led by a physician," in a way pigeon-hole PAs to a "back row" position and I don't believe that having this as the emphasis is helping PAs a lot. CMS can grab hold of this and basically say that they'll only pay for PA services if they are a part of that "team" with physician leadership - leaving those of us who practice without a physician 90% of the time in some trouble (I mention this as a possible drawback from the position statement). you're not practicing w/o a physician, you have a state approved practice plan and SP. Physician "leadership" means that you have a physician of record attached to the patient's care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebecker Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 you're not practicing w/o a physician, you have a state approved practice plan and SP. Physician "leadership" means that you have a physician of record attached to the patient's care. 100% correct. I mis-stated what I meant. What I intended to say was, "without a physician on-site." As long as CMS recognizes that my practice plan and SP signatures in all the right places identifies me as part of the team, then there is no problem. Correct me if I'm wrong, though, but the wording in the monograph leaves it open for CMS to do something underhanded like withhold payment if a physician was not on-site ready to see the patient if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneValgene Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 looks ok to me. much better than some other "physician " statements re: pa's. looks alright to me too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpayne2 Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 It's obvious where they got this from - looks like they almost copy and pasted the previously released AAFP-AAPA joint statement: http://www.aafp.org/online/en/home/publications/news/news-now/professional-issues/20110302aafp-aapastmt.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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