kpm7289 Posted February 25, 2013 Hi, I am new to this site and this is my first time posting. I have recently considered applying to PA school after I finish graduate school. I have a BS in Biology and am currently pursuing a doctorate in Chiropractic. I enjoy chiropractic, but feel that the scope of practice is too narrow for how I want to practice. Sadly I did not decide this until my final year of chiropractic school. I have friends who are PA’s and love it, I have shadowed them several times and it seems like more of what I am looking for in a career. I graduated with a 3.4 GPA as a biology major, and will graduate chiropractic school with a GPA of 3.1. In addition to my degrees I will have over 500 hours of clinical experience directly dealing with patients in different settings such as chiropractic clinics, hospitals, rehab centers, dental clinics, pain management clinics, etc. I was wondering what my chances are of being accepted into PA school….I know it has become extremely competitive. Any info or feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
Contrarian Posted February 25, 2013 The only glaring "barrier" may be your GPA... Otherwise... LOTS of Chiros eventually attend PA school.
Joelseff Posted February 25, 2013 Hi,I am new to this site and this is my first time posting. I have recently considered applying to PA school after I finish graduate school. I have a BS in Biology and am currently pursuing a doctorate in Chiropractic. I enjoy chiropractic, but feel that the scope of practice is too narrow for how I want to practice. Sadly I did not decide this until my final year of chiropractic school. I have friends who are PA’s and love it, I have shadowed them several times and it seems like more of what I am looking for in a career. I graduated with a 3.4 GPA as a biology major, and will graduate chiropractic school with a GPA of 3.1. In addition to my degrees I will have over 500 hours of clinical experience directly dealing with patients in different settings such as chiropractic clinics, hospitals, rehab centers, dental clinics, pain management clinics, etc. I was wondering what my chances are of being accepted into PA school….I know it has become extremely competitive. Any info or feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Also, if your HCE is from your rotations in Chiro school, some PA programs won't count that. Sent from my myTouch_4G_Slide using Tapatalk
Lemon Bars Posted February 25, 2013 Lots of chiros attend PA school? Why? The chiro I saw awhile back makes like $80 every five minutes.
GatorRRT Posted February 25, 2013 How do you intend on practicing? As a PA, you'll be working within the practice guidelines of your supervising physician. Some would consider this narrow as well . . .
cinntsp Posted February 26, 2013 Lots of chiros attend PA school? Why? The chiro I saw awhile back makes like $80 every five minutes. I don't know if there are "lots" but the ones that do figure out the profession is a sham, want better scope of practice, etc.
Contrarian Posted February 26, 2013 I said "lots" because for a long time now it seems like atleast 1 Chiropractor in every school/yr... We had 2 "back in the day." Unfortunately, they figure out its a sham after the loans have been disbursed. Many are GREAT for MSK issues but that's about it.
discogenic Posted February 26, 2013 I said "lots" because for a long time now it seems like atleast 1 Chiropractor in every school/yr...We had 2 "back in the day." Unfortunately, they figure out its a sham after the loans have been disbursed. Many are GREAT for MSK issues but that's about it. So chiros are great for MSK issues, but the profession is still a sham??
Contrarian Posted February 26, 2013 When I first responded to this, I saw that you were lurking this thread, so Just knew YOU were going to bite and bunch up your panties... To answer your query.... Yes... for the most part, chiropractors are great "physical therapist" but that's about it....!!! Go cry to Mr. Palmer about that problem... Chiropractic authors have stated that fraud, abuse and quackery are more prevalent in chiropractic than in other health care professions. According to Daniel D. Palmer, the founder of chiropractic, subluxation was the sole cause of disease and manipulation was the cure for all diseases of the human race. [Vertebral subluxation, the core concept of chiropractic, is not based on solid science. A 2010 review found that manual therapies commonly used by chiropractors are effective for the treatment of low back pain, neck pain, some kinds of headaches and a number of extremity joint conditions. A 2008 review found that with the possible exception of back pain, chiropractic manipulation has not been shown to be effective for any medical condition. The concept of subluxation remains unsubstantiated and largely untested, and has been debated about whether to keep it in the chiropractic paradigm for decades. The dogma of subluxation is the biggest single barrier to professional development for chiropractors. Vertebral subluxation skews the practice of legitimacy in ways that bring ridicule from the scientific community and uncertainty among the general public. Commitment to the subluxation dogma undermines the desire for scientific investigation of subluxation as hypothesis, and further perpetuates a cycle of a marketing tradition, inevitably bringing charges of quackery. The cost, effectiveness, and safety, of spinal manipulation are uncertain Chiropractors historically were strongly opposed to vaccination based on their belief that all diseases were traceable to causes in the spine, and therefore could not be affected by vaccines http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2771/is-chiropractic-for-real-or-just-quackery I have 2 good friends who are Chiropractors (mixers) ... and I do refer patients to them. They limit themselves to muscle/spine/joint work... unlike 98% of the Chiros around here who claim and believe that "Subluxation" is the cause of all illness. They don't claim to be able to "cure colds, and otitis media with adjustment." The REALLY hilarious part about this is that subconsciously YOU know its a sham.... as evidenced by "Dr. Discogenic, DC" needing to suspend all that subluxation correcting to take out MORE loans to actually learn the practice of Medicine... then function in that role, with that newly learned knowledge... WITHOUT allowing the word "Doctor" to be used while practicing clinically... Yep... its a SHAM...!!! Would be better off getting a DPT degree... http://skepdic.com/chiro.html
discogenic Posted February 26, 2013 When I first responded to this, I saw that you were lurking this thread, so Just knew YOU were going to bite and bunch up your panties... To answer your query.... Yes... for the most part, chiropractors are great "physical therapist" but that's about it....!!! Go cry to Mr. Palmer about that problem... I have 2 good friends who are Chiropractors (mixers) ... and I do refer patients to them. They limit themselves to muscle/spine/joint work... unlike 98% of the Chiros around here who claim and believe that "Subluxation" is the cause of all illness. They don't claim to be able to "cure colds, and otitis media with adjustment." The REALLY hilarious part about this is that subconsciously YOU know its a sham.... as evidenced by "Dr. Discogenic, DC" needing to suspend all that subluxation correcting to take out MORE loans to actually learn the practice of Medicine... then function in that role, with that newly learned knowledge... WITHOUT allowing the word "Doctor" to be used while practicing clinically... Yep... its a SHAM...!!! Would be better off getting a DPT degree... http://skepdic.com/chiro.html Man, you're really into this. That there is some analysis. I'm not a subluxation guy, and although you feel 98% of chiros believe they can cure all manner of disease with spinal adjustments, I disagree with you. It's WAY less than 98%. Now, if we were talking about 50 or 80 years ago, then yes...I'm sure more chiros thought they could cure all kinds of things. But not today. I will grant you that some chiros are more into 'disease prevention' than others. But they aren't necessarily emphasizing spinal adjustments to do it. (Yes, there are those who are still 'out there', but it's a minority of DCs.) It's more about promoting diet, exercise, and the usual lifestyle modifications. There's nothing wrong with that, and medicine should be doing more of that in my opinion. PTs do excelllent work, so you won't hear me bashing PTs. But, although there's certainly overlap between chiro and PT practices, there are some differences as well. You know what they are. And why does my pursuing PA mean that I "subconsciously" know the chiro profession is a sham? PA, or medicine overall, is a whole lot broader than chiropractic practice. Could it be possible that I have developed interests outside of what chiros do and wish to learn more? Nah, couldn't be, right? My chiro loans are long since paid off, by the way, and while I could keep doing what I'm doing as a chiro, I am choosing to pursue additional training. I guess in your mind that's an admission that chiro is a sham?? And why do you always bring up the "doctor" thing? Probably half of my patients call me by my first name. You've got this perception that having to drop the "doctor" title once I'm a PA is going to destroy my soul or something. You're wrong, bro. And it makes me wonder if it's not YOU who wishes for "Doctor" in front of his name? Curious.
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