EHOLDENPA-C Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 I want this thread to serve as a place that members can post links to articles, blogs, etc online which cast pa's in a poor light whether through poor representation of the facts or outright untruths. PAFT will respond to each with a list of facts and a request that these articles be fixed or removed. Eric Holden, PA-C Director at Large, PAFT http://pasfortomorrow.org/ 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmj11 Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 I want this thread to serve as a place that members can post links to articles, blogs, etc online which cast pa's in a poor light whether through poor representation of the facts or outright untruths. PAFT will respond to each with a list of facts and a request that these articles be fixed or removed.Eric Holden, PA-C Director at Large, PAFT http://pasfortomorrow.org/ Great work! I've always said that the AAPA should have had a gorilla in a suite with a file full of facts and studies . . . he just sat and lurked . . . waiting for mis-information to appear, then to pounce with facts and truths and to hold people accountable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TangoDown Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 http://fortlee.patch.com/articles/physician-assistant-charged-with-sexual-assault-at-fort-lee-medical-office Now obviously this guy is not good, but the article specifically states: "Both incidents are alleged to have occurred while Kim was alone with the women, according to authorities, who also said that Kim is not a licensed physician or nurse, but rather an assistant to the physicians at the Edison Kidney Center, Edison Nephrology, LLC in Edison and its affiliated office in Fort Lee." Hence the article is essentially implying that PAs do not even have the legal ability to do physicals because they are "assistants." Don't know if you want to touch this one anyway, since it's bad press in itself as this PA committed a crime, but that's at your digression. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted January 4, 2013 Moderator Share Posted January 4, 2013 probably best not to bring attention to a "bad apple". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Savage Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 It did not really state he was a "Physician Assistant" it said he was an assistant to the physician... which could mean many things (FMG, LPN, Medical Assistant, etc.) Does any one know if he was a PA and certified? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TangoDown Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 It did not really state he was a "Physician Assistant" it said he was an assistant to the physician... which could mean many things (FMG, LPN, Medical Assistant, etc.) Does any one know if he was a PA and certified? Check the URL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasip Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 (edited) No action required but posted more so for informational content. Can't even escape bad press in fictional novels. The latest Baldacci book that I read (one of the older ones with the two former secret service agents) had a PA (addressed as such in the novel) assisting a PCP who was also the local ME and he was caught stealing/selling drugs from the practice pharmacy to an illicit character in the book. Not exactly a sterling character. State board didn't have to get involved however since he was later murdered. He did drive a Jeep so at least he had some good qualities. Edited January 5, 2013 by Teasip 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TangoDown Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Can't even escape bad press in fictional novels. Ain't that the truth. Googling "Physician Assistant" and you seem to get a majority of articles on PA criminals or editorials blasting PAs. Google "Nurse Practitioner" and you get "NPs team up to push for advances in health care" and "NPs are the answer to the PCP shortage." And if there's any good coverage of a PA, it usually mentioned briefly in passing, and usually with the misnomer "physician's assistant" (which we're all familiar with). Other than that, all I ever see is "blah blah PA hired to blah family practice in HerpDerp Ohio" from clinic and practice websites, whereas the tone NPs receive on Google News suggests we should be seeing articles titled "NP flies up into space to save a cartload full of kittens; returns to enact world peace." We need to start getting PAs to go out and write editorials or promotional articles on various sites. Since the AAPA ain't pushing much propaganda outside of its Youtube channel, from what I can see, seems individual PAs have got to pick up the slack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paula Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Every individual PA is responsible to respond to the bad press and to write our own promotional articles. PAFT is in the process of writing to correct bad articles, or write our own responses. BUT, you cannot depend on one group to do it all. So, if you see bad press, misunderstanding of the profession, NPs getting the glory, PAs being swept under the rug, write your own letter or article. Submit it to your local paper. I posted on the AAPA website about the dreaded word "supervision" and how it impacts PA practice negatively. They responded that collaboration is a better word and that we can use that word instead of supervision. They responded that Federal law doesn't reference the word "supervision" frequently,but it is in our state laws. So, I take it that using the word collaboration has the green light from AAPA (not that we need the green light from them, but it is recorded that way on AAPA Facebook page). The more we use the word collaboration and call our physician partners our collaborative physician,the better it will be. Go write your letter, editorial, column, write your legislators, etc. I have done this on my own and also as a part of PAFT. Lets all work together towards this. Lets stand up for the PA Profession. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medman2007 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Ain't that the truth. Googling "Physician Assistant" and you seem to get a majority of articles on PA criminals or editorials blasting PAs. Google "Nurse Practitioner" and you get "NPs team up to push for advances in health care" and "NPs are the answer to the PCP shortage." And if there's any good coverage of a PA, it usually mentioned briefly in passing, and usually with the misnomer "physician's assistant" (which we're all familiar with). Other than that, all I ever see is "blah blah PA hired to blah family practice in HerpDerp Ohio" from clinic and practice websites, whereas the tone NPs receive on Google News suggests we should be seeing articles titled "NP flies up into space to save a cartload full of kittens; returns to enact world peace." We need to start getting PAs to go out and write editorials or promotional articles on various sites. Since the AAPA ain't pushing much propaganda outside of its Youtube channel, from what I can see, seems individual PAs have got to pick up the slack. Not meant to be argumentative, as I do agree that the PA profession can stand more positive press. However, I was curious about googling this. Not true. When googling "physician assistant", I don't see a "majority" of articles "bashing" PAs or discussing "PA criminals". For the first 5-6 pages at least, there are almost nill. Similarly, did not see the "Google News" love affair with NPs when googling "nurse practitoner". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TangoDown Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 I might have exaggerated a wee bit but it's what I've seen in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futurePAS Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Other than that, all I ever see is "blah blah PA hired to blah family practice in HerpDerp Ohio" from clinic and practice websites, This made me laugh, because it is so true. I spend an unhealthy amount of time searching PA-related things, and generally the results are extreeemely underwhelming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroncoPAS Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 The AAPA (whom I believe you have an affiliation with) posted this to their Facebook page 3 hours ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paula Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Unbelievable. We need to go to FB and respond to that spelling. You'd think they would proof read the article before letting it be published. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TangoDown Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Just watched American Greed, a TV show on CNBC. The ep was about an impostor physician, and in the 70s he had a PA who blew the whistle on him. Generally good coverage, but the show referred to and had his title card as "Physician's Assistant." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paula Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Unbelievable. We need to go to FB and respond to that spelling. You'd think they would proof read the article before letting it be published. I went to FB and commented on the 's. The response was that they would make a correction. I'm not sure if it was actually done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterallsummer Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 CMDT 2013 pg 1627 "physician's assistant" and compares us to "nurse specialist" lmao. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator LT_Oneal_PAC Posted January 25, 2013 Moderator Share Posted January 25, 2013 CMDT 2013 pg 1627 "physician's assistant" and compares us to "nurse specialist" lmao. I looked and didn't see it on that page of 2013. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterallsummer Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Do you have 2013 because I just read it and am 100% sure it's there. "[Flexible sigmoidoscopy] requires no sedation and in many centers is performed by a nurse specialist or physician's assistant. Adenomatous polypls... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator LT_Oneal_PAC Posted January 27, 2013 Moderator Share Posted January 27, 2013 Do you have 2013 because I just read it and am 100% sure it's there. "[Flexible sigmoidoscopy] requires no sedation and in many centers is performed by a nurse specialist or physician's assistant. Adenomatous polypls... Maybe I just didn't read well enough. I just skimmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brotherman Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 I'm sure you all have read the latest Wall Street Journal article regarding PAs. It seemed like a good article...definitely highlighting some tough stuff about my new state of Kentucky. Anyways, the actual comments on the article were more discouraging than anything. I know "comments" are not the same as the article so it isn't considered "bad press". There were a lot of dumb things said. I thought about jumping in there but figured it wouldn't do any good since I would be only sane person talking about the physician assistant. Oh well. I hate when our profession is misunderstood. But you can't win them all. Just curious if any one felt the same. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted February 5, 2013 Moderator Share Posted February 5, 2013 PAFT is looking at working with the KY folks to improve their legislation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surgblumm Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 There are many of us that agree that we can work together and change the way things are going in Kentucky. you have the committment of the PAFT. bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsfelder0417 Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 I went through those too. Some were going so far as to say that PA's are 'flunkies' that couldn't hack pre-med, and 'glorified nurses.' One must have some kind of ego on them to call someone with Masters degree a 'flunkie' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRob0351 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 http://www.foxnews.com/health/2013/02/13/will-your-doc-become-extinct-under-obamacare/?intcmp=features ... It is absolutely astounding that a physician could make such an egregious error. Truly unreal. I am really hoping someone on here with some pull can tell this guy to pull his head out of his a$$. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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