eventuallyPA Posted October 6, 2023 Hello, I am currently a second-year student and I'm in the process of assembling my resume for upcoming job applications. I'm seeking advice from current PA-Cs on how to effectively incorporate the experiences I've gained from my rotations. Furthermore, would it be beneficial to emphasize the elective rotations I've taken in specialized fields as I believe they helped me gain some skill sets I feel I would not have gotten as proficient in without taking them? Any guidance on the best approach to integrating these skills/experiences would be greatly valued and appreciated. Quote
LKPAC Posted October 10, 2023 What program are you at? When I was a student, my program helped me with this. Not that we're not glad to help you here, though. Quote
Moderator ventana Posted October 10, 2023 Moderator Resume is brief as new grad. sure highlight things that are relevant to the job you are applying to. more important by far personalized cover letter with highlights of both the company hiring you and what makes you “special” to them. Then polite TELEPHONE calls to follow up and professional thank you notes after interviews. they are looking for a motivated professional-show them that. 1 Quote
CAAdmission Posted October 11, 2023 11 hours ago, ventana said: Then polite TELEPHONE calls Telephone? What's that? The talkie thing attached to my text message sender? 1 4 Quote
sas5814 Posted October 11, 2023 1 hour ago, CAAdmission said: Telephone? What's that? The talkie thing attached to my text message sender? Its a seldom used app on my phone that makes me angry when someone forces me to use it. 1 1 Quote
Moderator ventana Posted October 11, 2023 Moderator 7 hours ago, CAAdmission said: Telephone? What's that? The talkie thing attached to my text message sender? 5 hours ago, Hemmingway said: Its a seldom used app on my phone that makes me angry when someone forces me to use it. FOREHEAD SLAPPING, REPEATEDLY........ 1 Quote
sas5814 Posted October 11, 2023 1 hour ago, ventana said: FOREHEAD SLAPPING, REPEATEDLY........ There's an app for that.... 1 Quote
SedRate Posted October 12, 2023 Yes, outline your rotations and skills. Agree with the above to search out CV examples. 1 Quote
Administrator rev ronin Posted October 13, 2023 Administrator 13 hours ago, SedRate said: Yes, outline your rotations and skills. ... but drop them after your first real PA job in 90+% of cases. The one time where I'd keep them on is if you're trying to get into a specialty you did an elective in during school but didn't end up in an initial job in that specialty. After you have a job, all those skills and stuff go into the experiences section, not the education section. 1 1 Quote
SedRate Posted October 16, 2023 On 10/12/2023 at 7:48 PM, rev ronin said: After you have a job, all those skills and stuff go into the experiences section, not the education section. You recommend a student puts skills they learned on rotation in the education section? That seems like experience to me. Quote
Administrator rev ronin Posted October 16, 2023 Administrator 1 minute ago, SedRate said: You recommend a student puts skills they learned on rotation in the education section? That seems like experience to me. Rotations, with the attendant skills, are education: you're not getting paid, not finally signing off on anything, not a licensed medical professional. Once you have a job, skills are experience and get recorded there. Thinking about it, I'm sure others may differ with me on this, that's just how I've always seen it done. Quote
SedRate Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, rev ronin said: Rotations, with the attendant skills, are education: you're not getting paid, not finally signing off on anything, not a licensed medical professional. Once you have a job, skills are experience and get recorded there. Thinking about it, I'm sure others may differ with me on this, that's just how I've always seen it done. Ah, I see your perspective. I see it as experience. Hospital medical staff require "case logs" of experience such as established patient visits, inpatient follow-up rounding, lac repairs, I&Ds, surgeries, etc to determine what kind of privileges may be granted to perform said duties and skills in the hospital, if any. If one is unable to furnish any case logs of experience, one is then formally proctored while performing these skills. This goes for new grads as well as PAs going into a new specialty that they cannot produce case logs for. Med staff doesn't discriminate between education-level and professional-level skills. Edited October 16, 2023 by SedRate 1 Quote
Moderator ventana Posted October 17, 2023 Moderator 23 hours ago, SedRate said: Ah, I see your perspective. I see it as experience. Hospital medical staff require "case logs" of experience such as established patient visits, inpatient follow-up rounding, lac repairs, I&Ds, surgeries, etc to determine what kind of privileges may be granted to perform said duties and skills in the hospital, if any. If one is unable to furnish any case logs of experience, one is then formally proctored while performing these skills. This goes for new grads as well as PAs going into a new specialty that they cannot produce case logs for. Med staff doesn't discriminate between education-level and professional-level skills. Ah but they do. MD/DO have “core procedures” which every doc can do PA - nope none. this means that things like Bx and joint injections need procedure logs every time you credential. Sort of stupid as their are docs that don’t know an 11 blade from a 15 yet we have to individually credential for watch little thing. Quote
SedRate Posted October 17, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, ventana said: Ah but they do. MD/DO have “core procedures” which every doc can do PA - nope none. this means that things like Bx and joint injections need procedure logs every time you credential. Sort of stupid as their are docs that don’t know an 11 blade from a 15 yet we have to individually credential for watch little thing. This post was about PAs, not docs, but since you brought it up, yes, docs do need to also show a certain level competency whether with proof of completion of a residency or case logs. If not, they also require proctoring. I cannot speak on the nuances for nonsurgical fields but have seen this for three different surgical subspecialties. As for having to show proof of things like bx and injections, I've never had to do that as they're considered a core skill for PAs at the hospitals I've been privileged at, so I wonder if your hospital experience and requirements have been different than mine. I've had to show proof of "advanced" things art lines, FAST exams, and thoracostomies. Edited October 17, 2023 by SedRate 1 Quote
Moderator ventana Posted October 17, 2023 Moderator 2 hours ago, SedRate said: This post was about PAs, not docs, but since you brought it up, yes, docs do need to also show a certain level competency whether with proof of completion of a residency or case logs. If not, they also require proctoring. I cannot speak on the nuances for nonsurgical fields but have seen this for three different surgical subspecialties. As for having to show proof of things like bx and injections, I've never had to do that as they're considered a core skill for PAs at the hospitals I've been privileged at, so I wonder if your hospital experience and requirements have been different than mine. I've had to show proof of "advanced" things art lines, FAST exams, and thoracostomies. Sounds like we actually agree two different somewhat large by small town standards, hospital systems require me to be individually credentialed for anytime the skin barrier is broken. IV, joint injections, bx. A bit insane but I don’t know why. Maybe some new grads are not trained by their programs? I certainly was. Quote
SedRate Posted October 17, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, ventana said: Sounds like we actually agree two different somewhat large by small town standards, hospital systems require me to be individually credentialed for anytime the skin barrier is broken. IV, joint injections, bx. A bit insane but I don’t know why. Maybe some new grads are not trained by their programs? I certainly was. Interesting, that does sound a bit insane. I know I have had to check a box when requesting to perform certain skills but have never had to furnish case logs for those base skills. Edited October 17, 2023 by SedRate Quote
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