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1 hour ago, Cideous said:

I want to be so damn vaccinated with spike proteins so powerful that even people around me at the grocery store become immune to Covid just by standing near me!  Give me those shots!!!!

You know, if vaccine shedding worked like the Antivaxxers think it does, that might actually work...  Too bad they're wrong?

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Is this technology going to be the wave of the future for new vaccines? I still remember the good old days where we just killed or attenuated the organism and made that into the vax. Now we are hijacking cellular machinery to produce an antigen. If someone would cook up a good "old fashioned" vaccine the antivax people would lose their grounds for concern.

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1 hour ago, CAAdmission said:

Is this technology going to be the wave of the future for new vaccines? I still remember the good old days where we just killed or attenuated the organism and made that into the vax. Now we are hijacking cellular machinery to produce an antigen. If someone would cook up a good "old fashioned" vaccine the antivax people would lose their grounds for concern.

Nothing is changing an anti-vaxxers mind at this point unless something bad directly affects them due to COVID. It has been warped into politics, and the "concern" goal post always seems to move. Before it had full FDA approval, that was the concern, and I doubt there was any significant uptake in vaccine after that happened.

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11 hours ago, CAAdmission said:

Now we are hijacking cellular machinery to produce an antigen. If someone would cook up a good "old fashioned" vaccine the antivax people would lose their grounds for concern.

All viruses and bacteria use that same cellular machinery to reproduce themselves. mRNA vaccines do it without penetrating the nucleus. It's fascinatingly ingenious, really, and a sea change as important as changing from snail mail to email.  If there's a downside, so far it really seems to be the fact that later shots can be quite uncomfortable, as I note from personal experience.

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When will the people with 3 and 4 shots start blaming the continuing COVID infections on the people with only 1 or 2 shots? 
 

I think it’s important to remember  that a vaccine that doesn’t prevent infection will never eradicate it. We will continue to live with COVID for the foreseeable future as an endemic virus. 

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1 hour ago, deltawave said:

When will the people with 3 and 4 shots start blaming the continuing COVID infections on the people with only 1 or 2 shots? 
 

I think it’s important to remember  that a vaccine that doesn’t prevent infection will never eradicate it. We will continue to live with COVID for the foreseeable future as an endemic virus. 

Why do you think that first event will come to pass?

I think it's important to realize that anything we can do to slow the mortality and hospitalization rates is a good thing. Who gives a flying %#@! if people still get COVID but they aren't hospitalized and don't die from it?

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2 hours ago, deltawave said:

I think it’s important to remember  that a vaccine that doesn’t prevent infection will never eradicate it. We will continue to live with COVID for the foreseeable future as an endemic virus. 

Vaccines, nothing. With an R0 of UP TO NINE and confirmed nonhuman reservoirs, it's never going away no matter how well anyone--or even everyone--is vaccinated.  So yes, you're right about future endemicity, but how we get there is even bleaker than your scenario.

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On 10/1/2021 at 9:46 PM, CAAdmission said:

Is this technology going to be the wave of the future for new vaccines? I still remember the good old days where we just killed or attenuated the organism and made that into the vax. Now we are hijacking cellular machinery to produce an antigen. If someone would cook up a good "old fashioned" vaccine the antivax people would lose their grounds for concern.

J&J

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I think the biggest disappointment in this pandemic has been human nature.

No sense of self responsibility or responsibility to others.

No concern for the price of citizenship.

Little respect for science and real medicine.

Fine, we cannot eradicate a deadly virus - could we at least act responsibly and try to prevent more people from dying?

The free for all attitude and "my rights, my rights" BS is stale and over.

We DO have responsibilities and public health is a real thing.

Sadly, more people will die, including children and more elderly with more life to live.

CAAdmission - don't - just don't. We know your opinion.

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1 hour ago, Reality Check 2 said:

Sadly, more people will die, including children and more elderly with more life to live.

Did you read the NYMag article I linked above?  Kids' deaths, while tragic, are still a drop in the bucket compared to the ongoing risk of breakthrough illness and death in the elderly.  The vaccine works very well, but even "very well" isn't going to be good enough to avoid ongoing serious morbidity and mortality in the elderly.

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On 10/1/2021 at 2:24 PM, Cideous said:

 

I want to be so damn vaccinated with spike proteins so powerful that even people around me at the grocery store become immune to Covid just by standing near me!  Give me those shots!!!!

We could both retire if we figure it out!! 

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On 10/1/2021 at 3:23 PM, sas5814 said:

you could just run around town hugging people and giving them immunity. Like a Marvel character.

 

I have been watching all the Marvel movies recently while riding my trainer in the fake world of Zwift.

Pretty decent movies I must day, pure brain rot and entertainment but makes time pass.....

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So, while we're talking third shot...

Just got a call from one of the vendors who will be servicing my clinic.  I won't name the company or even the line of business, but it's medical.  He's cancelling a Friday meeting and trying to get another rep to cover, because he tested positive for Covid-19.  So, my first questions... Are you doing OK? Is this a breakthrough case?

No. It's not a breakthrough case.  It's OC-f'ing-TOBER and a medical service provider business line rep hadn't gotten a single shot of anything yet.

So yes, defer my booster and give it to either someone who wants it, or someone who needs it but won't take it, please.

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On 9/22/2021 at 8:13 AM, rev ronin said:

Honestly, at this point, I question the justice of continuing to have and waste vaccine doses in the U.S. when the rest of the world needs them.  I'd rather my third dose go to Africa or South America.

Yeah, it's not just me.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/09/business/moderna-covid-vaccine.html

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