MediMike Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 (edited) We are preparing to enter some contract negotiations and I was hoping to hear from some of my fellow ICU colleagues regarding compensation packages if you're comfortable sharing! Feel free to PM me as well if you'd prefer not to post in public. We have 9 folks in our group, we are hospital employees rather than being employed by the physician partners. Contracted to work 10 (12) hour shifts/mo, end up working 7 day shifts q10 weeks, remainder are all nights. On nights we have two PA/NPs, one who covers a large community hospital with multiple specialty services and one who covers 3 smaller ones. We operate with virtual ICU backup, pretty autonomous. Full procedural expectation (Lines/Tubes/Bronch) Compensation wise we're looking at: Years 1 - 9 $137,500 (95.48/hr) Years 10+ $147,500 (102.43/hr) $10,000 annual bonus which we pretty much always meet No PTO/Sick $2500 CME Health/Vision/Dental/401k/457b Is this remotely comparable to your team? My issue at the moment is the contract is based on our hospitalist colleagues and I recently found out that they are making more than I am...while "rounding" on their COVID patients from outside the room. Sigh. Anyways! If you're comfortable/able to comment on how this looks compared to ya'lls situation I truly appreciate it! Not entirely sure how I got asked to negotiate anything but here we are... Edited September 3, 2021 by MediMike 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFPA94 Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 Curious, but what area of the country/ residential setting is your facility? I also work at a larger community hospital (450 beds) on the east coast mid-atlantic area, Lvl 2 trauma center with 38 ICU beds (medical and surgical combined) with CT surgery and neurosurgery programs. We alternate MICU, SICU, and Night coverage. typically 2 intensivists and 2 apps during the day (1 of each for MICU/ SICU) and then 1 intensivist and 1 app to cover both during nights. Similar expectations regarding procedural things (chest tubes, central /art lines, intubation, dialysis catheters, bronchs, etc). No EICU yet but that is apparently in the works. Overall we have a high level of autonomy, see our own pts, etc. We have collaborative agreements with all our intensivists but they are technically employed by a private group that is contracted with the hospital and the APPs are all employed by the hospital system. We are 7 APPs in total. From a salary aspect you are wayyy ahead of me there, $115k annual with 14, 12 hr shifts per 28 day period so breaks down to around 52-56/hr. We do however get PTO/ holiday and have full benefits, 2.5k CME etc, pretty much all the standard stuff. Unfortunately no set bonus structure and we dont have contracts currently (employment at will), but apparently this is something hospital administration is working on (if that even gets done). Would love to find out more re your groups pay structure and if those figures have been negotiated for you all in the past or been a standard. Also if anyone else wants to chime in re- critical care salaries i'd be very interested to see how others are doing. The general feeling here is that we have all been very overworked and underpaid with high patient loads given everything over the past 1.5 years and are looking to negotiate raises. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MediMike Posted September 4, 2021 Author Share Posted September 4, 2021 Hey @LFPA94! Thanks for chiming in. It is so hard to get a good idea of CC salaries as there seems to be a huge disparity across the country as you've mentioned. I'm south of Seattle in WA state. Pretty good COL in our area. I started off as a new grad working in the CCU of a university hospital in Seattle, advanced heart failure/transplant, no CT just CCU. Up there we did 11 (12) hour shifts/month, it shook out to around $115k/yr ($73/hr) for exclusively days and no procedural expectations outside of arterial lines and CVCs. Sounds like you've got some room for negotiation! Feel free to ask anything you need either via pM or on the thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polarbebe Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Work at a large academic system in a major metropolitan city in the Northeast. Among the highest in the nation in cost of living. At this institution medicine PAs have the same compensation as critical care PAs. Starting salary for new grads is 100k for six 12.5 hour shifts per 2 weeks (51.28/hour). This hospital system is below the pay rate for two competing large academic systems by about 10-20k/year. No bonus. Typical benefits for this area’s job market: 4 week PTO, sick time, medical/dental and CME money and CME days (1 week). 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acinetobacter Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 I posted some of this on another part of the forum, but I thought I’d tag it on here…. There is a job in Oregon at a high acuity ICU. Lots of procedures. It’s not in a big city, so cost of living isn’t too bad. You work seven days on seven days off, so 7 (12) hour shifts in a two week pay period. Average of 13-14 shifts per month. Basically it’s $83 an hour. There is also a yearly bonus with the potential for $20 to 25K more on top of that. Plus it has full benefits, $4K for CME, retirement, DEA covered, etc. So if you took three weeks off per year, and you got the bonus, you could make about $184,000. And that is for working an average of 13 to 14 shifts per month.. If you pick up some extra shifts you could definitely exceed $200,000. Hope this helps someone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brookietay10 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 On 12/7/2021 at 12:33 PM, Acinetobacter said: I posted some of this on another part of the forum, but I thought I’d tag it on here…. There is a job in Oregon at a high acuity ICU. Lots of procedures. It’s not in a big city, so cost of living isn’t too bad. You work seven days on seven days off, so 7 (12) hour shifts in a two week pay period. Average of 13-14 shifts per month. Basically it’s $83 an hour. There is also a yearly bonus with the potential for $20 to 25K more on top of that. Plus it has full benefits, $4K for CME, retirement, DEA covered, etc. So if you took three weeks off per year, and you got the bonus, you could make about $184,000. And that is for working an average of 13 to 14 shifts per month.. If you pick up some extra shifts you could definitely exceed $200,000. Hope this helps someone. Hi there! Is there any way that you could share more information about this job? I currently also work in a busy MICU/CVICU in Oregon and would like to know more, both because I am looking to moonlight but mostly I want to be able to better negotiate my contract soon. Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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