MediMike Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 Even aliens know what a NP does. 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconic Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 Just noticed that Immediate Past President is working for JPMorgan now. Hard to imagine this lady found some better opportunity than to serve her term as President. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hope2PA Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 I am surprised no one has suggested she just gave up on trying to help a profession that ignores best practice for future. Maybe she couldn’t get past that HOD chose to ignore the fact of MCP best title for future. Not that it was her choice, but best based on research. Maybe, just like indicted on report, she didn’t want to deal with the hassle of poor title choice knowing it will be a struggle and take away from time and effort to OTP, as it will raise more of a stink from physicians, who you still need, more so than MCP would have. Maybe she realized there are to many ostriches within HOD and AAPA. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAAdmission Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 25 minutes ago, Hope2PA said: Maybe she couldn’t get past that HOD chose to ignore the fact of MCP best title for future. I'd have a hard time buying that, unless she signed a really onerous non-disclosure contract. She's never been shy about voicing her beliefs in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sas5814 Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 37 minutes ago, Hope2PA said: I am surprised no one has suggested she just gave up on trying to help a profession that ignores best practice for future. Maybe she couldn’t get past that HOD chose to ignore the fact of MCP best title for future. Not that it was her choice, but best based on research. Maybe, just like indicted on report, she didn’t want to deal with the hassle of poor title choice knowing it will be a struggle and take away from time and effort to OTP, as it will raise more of a stink from physicians, who you still need, more so than MCP would have. Maybe she realized there are to many ostriches within HOD and AAPA. Nah... If I was pres and decided to resign because I had huge issues I'd publish a manifesto about it on my way out the door. What is the point of the grand gesture if nobody knows you made it? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAdamsPAC Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 On 7/3/2021 at 12:21 AM, PACali said: Maybe she is not pro-title change? Or the institution where she works is against the title change? The moniker of "Physician Associate" has been applied to Yale affiliated PAs for well over 30 + years. I know this as I worked at both YMS and Yale-New Haven Hospital titled a "Physician Associate" starting in 1988. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hope2PA Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 16 hours ago, CAdamsPAC said: The moniker of "Physician Associate" has been applied to Yale affiliated PAs for well over 30 + years. I know this as I worked at both YMS and Yale-New Haven Hospital titled a "Physician Associate" starting in 1988. My mistake. I didn’t realize any state legally used title Physician Associate. Actual degree of Associate doesn’t allow one to use that title. Many states specifically require Physician Assistant to be visible. Doubt they care if you have Masters as Physician Associate, master medical science or Assistant, still can only legally be an assistant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAdamsPAC Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) On 7/7/2021 at 11:30 AM, Hope2PA said: My mistake. I didn’t realize any state legally used title Physician Associate. Actual degree of Associate doesn’t allow one to use that title. Many states specifically require Physician Assistant to be visible. Doubt they care if you have Masters as Physician Associate, master medical science or Assistant, still can only legally be an assistant. Why do you feel compelled to apologize? The label Physician Associate is "a Yale thing", no where else in my 30 years of PA practice in CT was the label used! To be labeled as a "Physician Associate" one must be a graduate of an accredited Physician Assistant School, Certified by the NCCPA and have a State of Connecticut Physician Assistant License!! We as a profession must stop being so ready to apologize and grovel especially when not in error. Edited July 15, 2021 by CAdamsPAC spelling error 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWR Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Getting off topic with some of the answers. Why was a duly ELECTED president not seated? Why is the BOD so hush hush? We all deserve to know what happened. She was voted in to be President!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAAdmission Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 4 hours ago, TWR said: Getting off topic with some of the answers. Why was a duly ELECTED president not seated? Why is the BOD so hush hush? We all deserve to know what happened. She was voted in to be President!!!!!! Whatever happened, it looks like there are hard feelings. She scrubbed any mention of AAPA off her LinkedIn page, and she has been affiliated a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sas5814 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Well PAFT sent a letter to the current AAPA leadership asking for some clarification and asking for transparency. We will see if we get any response. My best guesstimation is something big happened and everyone is being very quiet under advice of counsel. If that is the case they should just say... for legal reasons we cannot comment. It isn't the best answer and will probably fuel more speculation but it is, at least, some kind of answer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator rev ronin Posted July 29, 2021 Administrator Share Posted July 29, 2021 2 hours ago, CAAdmission said: Whatever happened, it looks like there are hard feelings. She scrubbed any mention of AAPA off her LinkedIn page, and she has been on the board for the last several years. Fixed that for you. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cideous Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 Still no word? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sas5814 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Nope. I suspect there are some lawyers involved somewhere. I have never seen anything this big clamped down on so hard information-wise. As time goes by there will be less pressure to say anything and less interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator ventana Posted September 8, 2021 Author Moderator Share Posted September 8, 2021 freedom of information request - fight legal with legal?? PAFT?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAAdmission Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 1 hour ago, ventana said: freedom of information request - fight legal with legal?? PAFT?? Pretty sure that only applies to Uncle Sam. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sas5814 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 3 hours ago, ventana said: freedom of information request - fight legal with legal?? PAFT?? PAFT sent a demand letter for an explanation. It was ignored other than Dianne herself asking who told us she was removed from the board. It was a word choice more than a declaration or actual belief she was removed. It was the only response we received from anyone. Whatever it is...I think we can assume its pretty bad in some fashion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator True Anomaly Posted September 10, 2021 Moderator Share Posted September 10, 2021 Maybe there’ll be a PA Historical Society documentary made about it someday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator ventana Posted September 10, 2021 Author Moderator Share Posted September 10, 2021 Is there any legal recourse that the members of AAPA can take?? Will Diane go on the record? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAAdmission Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 It'll come out. In an org as big as AAPA, a lot of people know. There must be a legal gag order to keep it clamed down this tight. Even without details, at the very least it should be noted if this was a resignation or dismissal for cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator rev ronin Posted September 10, 2021 Administrator Share Posted September 10, 2021 1 hour ago, CAAdmission said: It'll come out. In an org as big as AAPA, a lot of people know. There must be a legal gag order to keep it clamed down this tight. Even without details, at the very least it should be noted if this was a resignation or dismissal for cause. Given nothing other than how long it took to remove her AAPA service from her public presence, specifically the Yale faculty bio that listed her as past president 2022-23, I am not seeing a voluntary resignation. Resignation via coercion ("resign or..."), perhaps, but certainly not a voluntary resignation of any sort. I mean, any adults who've been around for a while know that when someone "leaves for other opportunities" or "refocuses their career to spend more time with their family" they've really been fired or offered an opportunity to resign in lieu of being fired, and the public press release is all about nominally saving face while communicating the change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator True Anomaly Posted September 13, 2021 Moderator Share Posted September 13, 2021 On 9/10/2021 at 10:16 AM, ventana said: Is there any legal recourse that the members of AAPA can take?? Will Diane go on the record? Legal recourse? Did any one of us suffer actual personal damage because of this? I get wanting an explanation, but trying to make a case out of it is a bit beyond the pale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sas5814 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Having served on the board of a hospital district (public) I can promise you there are things the board is permitted to do and keep to themselves. The reasons this is permitted, in a public entity, are very few and narrowly interpreted, but I am assuming they are acting under advice of counsel and are pretty comfortable in their position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAAdmission Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 I'm pretty sure whatever crazy things we can think up will be much more exciting than the mundane truth. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sas5814 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 13 hours ago, CAAdmission said: I'm pretty sure whatever crazy things we can think up will be much more exciting than the mundane truth. Oh yea.... not giving any answer just lets the rumor mill spin faster and faster. I suspect they are just waiting it out knowing eventually interest will wane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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