Thread #2. Seriously, what is the fastest way to an NP degree??

[ventana]

Last thread got off topic (off topic threads will be deleted)

 

The ONLY question on this one:

 

Please list the program and how long it takes, required degree to enter

Examples (web link would be nice)

Marquette University, 19-21m, Direct Entry NP.  https://mastersnursing.marquette.edu/direct-entry-msn/ 

[Komorebi]

5 hours ago, ventana said:

Last thread got off topic (off topic threads will be deleted)

 

The ONLY question on this one:

 

Please list the program and how long it takes, required degree to enter

Examples (web link would be nice)

Marquette University, 19-21m, Direct Entry NP.  https://mastersnursing.marquette.edu/direct-entry-msn/ 

The marquette program is an MSN in education. You'd still have to do a post Master's certificate to be an NP.

 

 

You probably can't beat the Vanderbilt program for people with a bachelor's in another field. It's 2 full years (6 semesters including summer) so it's 1 year to BSN and a 1 year NP program. Both accelerated.

https://nursing.vanderbilt.edu/msn/prespecialty/index.php

Here's the pre-reqs:

Eight (8) semester hours of Human Anatomy and Physiology taken within 5 years of application

Three (3) semester hours of Microbiology taken within 5 years of application

Three (3) semester hours of Lifespan Development, Human Growth and Development or Developmental Psychology (course must cover lifespan from birth to death)

Three (3) semester hours of Statistics (course must include inferential statistics)

Two to Three (2-3) semester hours of Nutrition

 

 

Edited May 1, 2021 by Komorebi

[Cideous]

25 minutes ago, Komorebi said:

The marquette program is an MSN in education. You'd still have to do a post Master's certificate to be an NP.

 

 

You probably can't beat the Vanderbilt program for people with a bachelor's in another field. It's 2 full years (6 semesters including summer) so it's 1 year to BSN and a 1 year NP program. Both accelerated.

https://nursing.vanderbilt.edu/msn/prespecialty/index.php

Here's the pre-reqs:

Eight (8) semester hours of Human Anatomy and Physiology taken within 5 years of application

Three (3) semester hours of Microbiology taken within 5 years of application

Three (3) semester hours of Lifespan Development, Human Growth and Development or Developmental Psychology (course must cover lifespan from birth to death)

Three (3) semester hours of Statistics (course must include inferential statistics)

Two to Three (2-3) semester hours of Nutrition

 

 

Any idea on total costs?

[bobuddy]

 I looked at the Vandy program a while back - it was about $50k per year - looks like undergrad total  is now at 54K - cannot easily locate what the graduate costs are.     Plus with having to take 2 years off - and the pre-reqs to get in that I would have to repeat because it has been 23 years since I took those classes.     

 

Total UGH.    

[EMEDPA]

the excelsior ADN program is entirely online except for a single skills test. Can be done in less than a year. I know ER techs who have done it. As a PA with a BS or MS and an ADN you could apply to most NP programs. Many are online with minimal clinicals that could be done around work, like the program listed below. So 2-3 years part time while still working full time as a PA. 

https://www.excelsior.edu/programs/nursing/associate-degrees-in-nursing/

https://www.westernu.edu/nursing/nursing-academics/nursing-msn-fnp/#flexible

[Cideous]

1 hour ago, EMEDPA said:

the excelsior ADN program is entirely online except for a single skills test. Can be done in less than a year. I know ER techs who have done it. As a PA with a BS or MS and an ADN you could apply to most NP programs. Many are online with minimal clinicals that could be done around work, like the program listed below. So 2-3 years part time while still working full time as a PA. 

https://www.excelsior.edu/programs/nursing/associate-degrees-in-nursing/

https://www.westernu.edu/nursing/nursing-academics/nursing-msn-fnp/#flexible

ding ding ding

[FiremedicMike]

5 hours ago, EMEDPA said:

the excelsior ADN program is entirely online except for a single skills test. Can be done in less than a year. I know ER techs who have done it. As a PA with a BS or MS and an ADN you could apply to most NP programs. Many are online with minimal clinicals that could be done around work, like the program listed below. So 2-3 years part time while still working full time as a PA. 

https://www.excelsior.edu/programs/nursing/associate-degrees-in-nursing/

https://www.westernu.edu/nursing/nursing-academics/nursing-msn-fnp/#flexible

Excelsior moves further and further down the list these days.. There are states that refuse to acknowledge them and I believe the bulk of the credits are non transferable.

When hybrid coursework wasn't so popular, excelsior was the cutting edge and an amazing opportunity.   Now, you’re much better off attending a hybrid/blended ADN program at your local community college. 

[EMEDPA]

11 hours ago, FiremedicMike said:

Excelsior moves further and further down the list these days.. There are states that refuse to acknowledge them and I believe the bulk of the credits are non transferable.

When hybrid coursework wasn't so popular, excelsior was the cutting edge and an amazing opportunity.   Now, you’re much better off attending a hybrid/blended ADN program at your local community college. 

so here is the trick...get your state RN license in a state that accepts it and then get the license in the state you want by reciprocity with the first state. WA doesn't take it, but OR does, so folks get an OR license and then pay a fee for reciprocity with WA. Done. 

[FiremedicMike]

1 hour ago, EMEDPA said:

so here is the trick...get your state RN license in a state that accepts it and then get the license in the state you want by reciprocity with the first state. WA doesn't take it, but OR does, so folks get an OR license and then pay a fee for reciprocity with WA. Done. 

But why go through extra steps/stress when hybrid programs at actual legit colleges are now so common?

 

[EMEDPA]

2 hours ago, FiremedicMike said:

But why go through extra steps/stress when hybrid programs at actual legit colleges are now so common?

 

so you can work full time the whole way through

[iconic]

I was thinking of doing DMSc - now I think an RN degree would be 100 x better 

Edited May 5, 2021 by iconic

[FiremedicMike]

7 hours ago, EMEDPA said:

so you can work full time the whole way through

You can do that with the blended/hybrid courses that pretty much every program has now..

I’m in the evening blended track.. we have a 2 hour lab (sometimes over zoom) and clinical each week.  Everything else is self study..

[bobuddy]

I am having a difficult time finding any local colleges that accept the ADN (assoc. degree) to NP -  everyone in KY requires the BSN for admission.     They also require 1000 hours of bedside nursing or 1 year full time employed prior to admission.     How are you getting around those requirements?     I wonder if certain programs would make an exception?    

[WantToHopeForPAfuture]

If no nursing is required and just one year online NP writing courses I would definitely switch over also.

NPs are going to be  independent in California. Think about that. NPs got it so much better they can even open up their own clinics!

[Cideous]

54 minutes ago, WantToHopeForPAfuture said:

If no nursing is required and just one year online NP writing courses I would definitely switch over also.

NPs are going to be  independent in California. Think about that. NPs got it so much better they can even open up their own clinics!

Go back a few years and read my posts on California.  Several people here laughed when I said Ca was going to go independent for NP's and that would be the ballgame.  And right on que, FL NP's went independent and dropped us off the bill like a hot potato.  Now Ca goes independent.  I don't mean to say I told you all so but I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok, not very dignified but damnit what is it going to take to wake legacy PA's up to the fact that WE ARE LOSING....BADLY TO NP'S.  

[WantToHopeForPAfuture]

7 hours ago, Cideous said:

Go back a few years and read my posts on California.  Several people here laughed when I said Ca was going to go independent for NP's and that would be the ballgame.  And right on que, FL NP's went independent and dropped us off the bill like a hot potato.  Now Ca goes independent.  I don't mean to say I told you all so but I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok, not very dignified but damnit what is it going to take to wake legacy PA's up to the fact that WE ARE LOSING....BADLY TO NP'S.  

Well we may end up working for  NP owners and bosses in primary care clinics now. They are separating themselves into higher echelon now. We are just glorified MAs now.  Oh no!