Reality Check 2 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Without mentioning political candidate names or using blue/red, left/right or other monikers.... Keep it SCIENCE Do you think the CDC has been politicized? Do you trust their guidance at this point? What resources do you read/go to for information at this point? Discuss......................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator ventana Posted September 21, 2020 Moderator Share Posted September 21, 2020 honetly nope I don't trust them 100% I trust them 98% but if they make claims that go against even basic medical knownledge then I tend to view it with skeptism... UPTODATE is still my go to State of MASS DPH has been very very good - they are likely the most trusted source for me now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator rev ronin Posted September 21, 2020 Administrator Share Posted September 21, 2020 The sidelining of CDC in Covid-19 world has been inexcusable. This is their raison d'etre. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlottew Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 I agree it's shameful what's happened to the public-facing CDC. I feel badly for all the scientists who work there who are watching as the agency has become politicized. So no, sadly I don't trust clinical advice from the CDC or the WHO. Up To Date is fine, also covidprotocols.org (sponsored by Brigham and Women's in Boston), as well as Internet book of critical care/EMcrit https://emcrit.org/ibcc/covid19/ (although I don't know how recently this last one has been updated). The hospital where I work also has a website and short handbook, that would probably be my first resource. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cideous Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 I trust the CDC will eventually do the right thing, but watching the head of the CDC give interviews is like watching a hostage blinking out SOS.... Until this Administration is swept into the dustbin of history, the CDC and HHS will be under assault. Complete and utter political assault. Scientific America broke with 175 years of tradition and endorsed the Blue guy...not the Orange. Why? They said this administration has attacked science and scientists in ways that have not been seen since the dark ages. 175 years!!!!! https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/scientific-american-endorses-joe-biden/ 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check 2 Posted September 21, 2020 Author Share Posted September 21, 2020 I am not sure what it will take to put the CDC back in good standing with the majority of scientists and health care providers. The internet never forgets --- anything. Not sure what to think of WHO any longer either. They seemed to degenerate into a pissing match with the US administration and then go with one-ups-manship to try to "win". How do we and can we go back to science for the sake of science and public health for all? I am reading things more carefully now and digging into what the numbers really mean clinically. It is exhausting. I spend more time than ever in my career trying to convince folks I might know what I am talking about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatMan Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 I think one could argue that the CDC has been killed. I don't think they have been politicized...more like they have a had a gun to their head and they are not allowed to function the way they were intended to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MediMike Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 I trust the first thing the CDC says on a topic, not their retractions or their 2nd iterations after getting their hands slapped. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinntsp Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 22 hours ago, Cideous said: I trust the CDC will eventually do the right thing, but watching the head of the CDC give interviews is like watching a hostage blinking out SOS.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted September 22, 2020 Moderator Share Posted September 22, 2020 On 9/21/2020 at 2:14 PM, rev ronin said: The sidelining of CDC in Covid-19 world has been inexcusable. This is their raison d'etre. agree. I think it will get better next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted September 22, 2020 Moderator Share Posted September 22, 2020 22 hours ago, Reality Check 2 said: I am not sure what it will take to put the CDC back in good standing with the majority of scientists and health care providers. The internet never forgets --- anything. Not sure what to think of WHO any longer either. They seemed to degenerate into a pissing match with the US administration and then go with one-ups-manship to try to "win". How do we and can we go back to science for the sake of science and public health for all? I am reading things more carefully now and digging into what the numbers really mean clinically. It is exhausting. I spend more time than ever in my career trying to convince folks I might know what I am talking about. I would like to think that we will rejoin the WHO next year for a number of reasons. I trust them more than our own CDC at this point. CDC should also come around next year. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator ventana Posted September 30, 2020 Moderator Share Posted September 30, 2020 ugh, so very sad this is even a thread... where did we go wrong?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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