azwerin Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Does any one know if we have access to cadavers (human corpses) for anatomy? I am curious because I heard that some schools hand down what their medical students have used. Or some can't afford it all. I'm also curious about the extent we will be doing dissections? Anyone from Sophie davis pa program in new York? Also, it's a cuny state school, so maybe the available funds are lower? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eewee Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 I interviewed at a program affiliated with a major medical school and a major health system. At that program, the cadavers were "handed down" after the medical students were finished with them. We were told at the interview that PA students didn't have time for dissections. I'm attending a program in August that is not directly affiliated with a medical school and we will have our own cadavers as well as some that are prosected. I'm sure it's very much an individual thing. However, I would be willing to bet that PA programs affiliated with large medical schools are more likely to hand down cadavers. I would be skeptical of programs that provide no access to cadavers. Seems like a pretty important part of learning medicine. Maybe someone familiar with NY programs can give you some more specific info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffchic Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Azwerin, I would imagine that you would have use of cadavers in your anatomy class at Sophie Davis. Have you asked them directly? I interviewed in three schools in NY state and all made use of cadavers that were not prosected or hand me downs, though there is certainly sharing amongst different teams of PA students that work on the cadavers. I would go right to the source on this one and ask your school or prospective school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmathews619 Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Your best bet would be to look at the schools website or even ask them when you get called for an interview. I finished my first year at a school in NY(NYIT) and we used our own cadavers. The med students had their own and we had our own. We were lucky enough to cut from head to toe and learn each structure. Other schools I got accepted to used simulations not the real cadaver. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azwerin Posted June 29, 2012 Author Share Posted June 29, 2012 Thanks everyone! This is helpful. I didn't think to ask because I thought it was sort of silly. But I'll find out the good old fashion way, when class starts lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briepm Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Hey azwerin - Do you realize that you should choose the "PA student" descriptor, NOT Physician Assistant (as you're listed now)? People get mighty angry about that ' round these parts :smile: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azwerin Posted July 1, 2012 Author Share Posted July 1, 2012 I don't know how to change it lol but you're not the first to tell me, plus I think it's obvious that I'm a student by all the questions I'm askin anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HLReed Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 This is completely depended on the school. Some don't do any human dissection, some use those cadavers that have already been dissected (they call them "prosected" cadavers). At Yale, the PA students got their own fresh, uncut cadavers for dissection (I know University of Florida was the same way when I interviewed there). Having our own cadavers was one of the "dealbreaker" criteria I gave myself when choosing a school. It generally speaks to the resources available and the importance placed on the PA program within the institution (with exceptions, I'm sure...). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planteater Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 azwerin- click on "my profile" at the top of the page, go under the "about me" tab and click on the little pencil to edit your status. You may not think it's a big deal or that people can tell, but that is not true of all your posts and it *can* get you kicked off the site. HTH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crystaltide Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Having our own cadavers was one of the "dealbreaker" criteria I gave myself when choosing a school. It generally speaks to the resources available and the importance placed on the PA program within the institution (with exceptions, I'm sure...). This has been one of my criteria ever since I found out that some schools do not have dissections. Some schools list whether they do dissections or prosecutions in the class descriptions. Other schools you have to email directly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator LT_Oneal_PAC Posted July 1, 2012 Moderator Share Posted July 1, 2012 Some medical schools do not perform dissections (they have computer programs), while the PA and CRNA programs in the same university still do. I know University of Alabama at Birmingham is this way. The neuro PA that taught the med students in the cadaver lab thought it was a grave injustice to remove cadavers from gross anatomy. Point is, sometimes it's not a matter of resources. Some people just think it's not that important. All the more reason to avoid those programs IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted July 1, 2012 Moderator Share Posted July 1, 2012 I think it also depends on your prior a+p experience. I had an awesome cadaver course with 4 students/cadaver as an undergrad so was ok with a prosection course in pa school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictoriaO Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 I interviewed at Stoneybrook in NY, I recall they had (may not still be the case) cadavers for exclusive use for their PA program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medic25 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 I trained at Stony Brook, and we had our own fresh cadavers during anatomy; excellent way to learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andersenpa Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 I went to SB also. Our anat class was PAs and PTs. Fresh cadavers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azwerin Posted July 2, 2012 Author Share Posted July 2, 2012 Are the faces removed from the cadavers? Or anything like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator LT_Oneal_PAC Posted July 2, 2012 Moderator Share Posted July 2, 2012 No. Gotta dissect out facial nerves and muscles as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonD Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 I noticed a great deal of variety among different programs in their approach to human anatomy when my daughter was investigating PA schools. Some (few) schools give the PA students "fresh" cadavers. Most used prosected cadavers from a med school. One school had the PA students drive an hour to another major urban university to "look over" the med school cadavers, and if I remember it was not mandatory that they do it. My daughter is not going to that school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andersenpa Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Are the faces removed from the cadavers? Or anything like that? Only the ones from Miami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkrobb Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Hey ash. During the sophie Davis interview they told me they do use cadavers and prosections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azwerin Posted July 5, 2012 Author Share Posted July 5, 2012 What are prosecutions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonD Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Dissection=learn by doing it yourself. Prosection=learn by observing a previously dissected cadaver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andersenpa Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 What are prosecutions? Those are made later in the medicolegal course.....which often results in a cadaver.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiaroscuro27 Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Lol, Andersen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALombardo Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 I am currently a student at Marywood University in Pennsylvania. We are affiliated with a medical school but are given 'whole' cadavers to dissect. We have the medical students as TA's in our lab who answer questions and assist with our dissections but we are the ones with the scalpels! If you are wavering between schools, I highly recommend choosing a school that allows you to dissect the cadavers yourselves. It has greatly increased my knowledge of A&P by doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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