sts0001 Posted June 15, 2012 Author Share Posted June 15, 2012 Just to start let me say that I have never been one for posting much on forums but have always been someone who looked and searched to death and have found a lot of good advice. At this point though I find few who can relate to my situation. So here it goes sorry for the long post... I have been working as a nurse for just about 8 years. It has been a good profession that I have taken a lot from and enjoyed. I started out getting my LPN through a tech school and then working through community college on to a university where I received my BSN and RN. At this point I did not wish to stop school and I stood at a point of choosing where to go. I visited several PA schools and spoke with several PA's I had met through work. I saw the training and was very impressed at what was offered to students of several schools. I also investigated the NP route as well. I had just spent the last two years in school with many of them as my teachers. I even meet with representatives and members of the adcom at my states med school. In the end I decided med school was not for me, I always enjoyed being an important part of a team that made it better rather than always trying to be the leader and I did not want to be in school til I was 40. My school where I received my BS then made me an offer, to go to NP school part time and free. I had previously been a peer tutor and because of my experience as an LPN they said they would allow me to instruct undergraduate clinical groups 1 day per week and that would cover my tuition. At the same time my former job as an LPN asked me to come back and offered me 65k right out of school and a schedule that would allow to continue taking classes. With these 2 offers I went with the NP route. When I entered the program I had bought a home and settled in for school. Ever since everything has been falling apart. First right when I started they announced that almost all of the classes were going to be offered only online. One of the reasons I had liked my school's program is that every class was in a brick and mortar setting and there were very experienced instructors. Well I found out also that the school had lost its 3 most experienced instructors and that we now had a brand new just graduated DNP to teach our core classes, oh and the professor teaching the classes that fall had left 2 weeks before the program began to the surprise of everyone, his old alma mater had made him and another professor an offer and the third one retired. So this teacher who had never taught a class before had two week to create her whole curriculum and it was horrible, though I did feel bad for her. So from here on out the classes where all taught my mostly brand new faculty. Well then after that classes were mostly a joke. I and almost everyone else except for a few had A's in all of the classes. There was zero lectures and most classes had every test and final online at home. Even the only recorded lecture I had was from YOUTUBE. I only had one course that had every other week lectures. When I hit my clinical rotations it finally pushed me over the edge. I had one excellent preceptor who was in a fast track ER who did everything he could to be a good teacher, I thanked him often and did almost double the hours I was supposed to with him. After that it would be months without a preceptor at a time then I would get assigned to one np who was precepting 3 students at a time and since I was so behind from all the time my program could not find a preceptor that I would precept as many days in a row as possible. With my working that I was still doing and the teaching this ended up with me having 3 days off in a two month period. Also since there were always so many students to one preceptor I would only see maybe 2 or 3 patients a day and would just watch others the rest of the time. I finally stopped and took a look at myself. I had been through half of the program and had not learned a damn thing! I was working constantly and felt exhausted and really did not know why I was doing this anymore. Everyone just told me that its OK most people don't learn till after the graduate and get a job anyway, but there was no way I was going to enter a field when I felt completely incompetent. The only reason at this point I had stayed in the program was because after buying a house I had bad water damage and had depleted most of my saving and insurance settlements to remodel it. The market in my area though is crashed and it is hard to sell anything without it being a loss. I have decided I am just going to have to live with the loss. Now I left my program and decided that I need to go to PA school and get the education I wanted in the first place. I am completing a few prerequisites now and hope to apply next cycle. My questions thought is how do I explain starting and not finishing np school. I left in good standing and with excellent grades but don't know how to explain this any shorter way. I just want to say to that I have nothing against NPs in general, I have meet many that are well educated and great professionals. The biggest weakness of the np is the inconsistency of their programs, even the one I was in was well respected at one point but now it is known as a joke. The national exams (yes their are multiple certifying bodies you can chose from) have a very low standard (I passed several mock exams after one semester in the program). This makes it hard for some entering the field and someone evaluating a new grad to know if they are competent or not. Also the specialized model is now largely ignored and all are being trained as generalist but without the full training and rotations. This is just my 2 cents, I appreciate any input that someone can give me and thanks for letting me vent that! S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sts0001 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Just to start let me say that I have never been one for posting much on forums but have always been someone who looked and searched to death and have found a lot of good advice. At this point though I find few who can relate to my situation. So here it goes sorry for the long post... I have been working as a nurse for just about 8 years. It has been a good profession that I have taken a lot from and enjoyed. I started out getting my LPN through a tech school and then working through community college on to a university where I received my BSN and RN. At this point I did not wish to stop school and I stood at a point of choosing where to go. I visited several PA schools and spoke with several PA's I had met through work. I saw the training and was very impressed at what was offered to students of several schools. I also investigated the NP route as well. I had just spent the last two years in school with many of them as my teachers. I even meet with representatives and members of the adcom at my states med school. In the end I decided med school was not for me, I always enjoyed being an important part of a team that made it better rather than always trying to be the leader and I did not want to be in school til I was 40. My school where I received my BS then made me an offer, to go to NP school part time and free. I had previously been a peer tutor and because of my experience as an LPN they said they would allow me to instruct undergraduate clinical groups 1 day per week and that would cover my tuition. At the same time my former job as an LPN asked me to come back and offered me 65k right out of school and a schedule that would allow to continue taking classes. With these 2 offers I went with the NP route. When I entered the program I had bought a home and settled in for school. Ever since everything has been falling apart. First right when I started they announced that almost all of the classes were going to be offered only online. One of the reasons I had liked my school's program is that every class was in a brick and mortar setting and there were very experienced instructors. Well I found out also that the school had lost its 3 most experienced instructors and that we now had a brand new just graduated DNP to teach our core classes, oh and the professor teaching the classes that fall had left 2 weeks before the program began to the surprise of everyone, his old alma mater had made him and another professor an offer and the third one retired. So this teacher who had never taught a class before had two week to create her whole curriculum and it was horrible, though I did feel bad for her. So from here on out the classes where all taught my mostly brand new faculty. Well then after that classes were mostly a joke. I and almost everyone else except for a few had A's in all of the classes. There was zero lectures and most classes had every test and final online at home. Even the only recorded lecture I had was from YOUTUBE. I only had one course that had every other week lectures. When I hit my clinical rotations it finally pushed me over the edge. I had one excellent preceptor who was in a fast track ER who did everything he could to be a good teacher, I thanked him often and did almost double the hours I was supposed to with him. After that it would be months without a preceptor at a time then I would get assigned to one np who was precepting 3 students at a time and since I was so behind from all the time my program could not find a preceptor that I would precept as many days in a row as possible. With my working that I was still doing and the teaching this ended up with me having 3 days off in a two month period. Also since there were always so many students to one preceptor I would only see maybe 2 or 3 patients a day and would just watch others the rest of the time. I finally stopped and took a look at myself. I had been through half of the program and had not learned a damn thing! I was working constantly and felt exhausted and really did not know why I was doing this anymore. Everyone just told me that its OK most people don't learn till after the graduate and get a job anyway, but there was no way I was going to enter a field when I felt completely incompetent. The only reason at this point I had stayed in the program was because after buying a house I had bad water damage and had depleted most of my saving and insurance settlements to remodel it. The market in my area though is crashed and it is hard to sell anything without it being a loss. I have decided I am just going to have to live with the loss. Now I left my program and decided that I need to go to PA school and get the education I wanted in the first place. I am completing a few prerequisites now and hope to apply next cycle. My questions thought is how do I explain starting and not finishing np school. I left in good standing and with excellent grades but don't know how to explain this any shorter way. I just want to say to that I have nothing against NPs in general, I have meet many that are well educated and great professionals. The biggest weakness of the np is the inconsistency of their programs, even the one I was in was well respected at one point but now it is known as a joke. The national exams (yes their are multiple certifying bodies you can chose from) have a very low standard (I passed several mock exams after one semester in the program). This makes it hard for some entering the field and someone evaluating a new grad to know if they are competent or not. Also the specialized model is now largely ignored and all are being trained as generalist but without the full training and rotations. This is just my 2 cents, I appreciate any input that someone can give me and thanks for letting me vent that! S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelseff Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Just to start let me say that I have never been one for posting much on forums but have always been someone who looked and searched to death and have found a lot of good advice. At this point though I find few who can relate to my situation.So here it goes sorry for the long post... I have been working as a nurse for just about 8 years. It has been a good profession that I have taken a lot from and enjoyed. I started out getting my LPN through a tech school and then working through community college on to a university where I received my BSN and RN. At this point I did not wish to stop school and I stood at a point of choosing where to go. I visited several PA schools and spoke with several PA's I had met through work. I saw the training and was very impressed at what was offered to students of several schools. I also investigated the NP route as well. I had just spent the last two years in school with many of them as my teachers. I even meet with representatives and members of the adcom at my states med school. In the end I decided med school was not for me, I always enjoyed being an important part of a team that made it better rather than always trying to be the leader and I did not want to be in school til I was 40. My school where I received my BS then made me an offer, to go to NP school part time and free. I had previously been a peer tutor and because of my experience as an LPN they said they would allow me to instruct undergraduate clinical groups 1 day per week and that would cover my tuition. At the same time my former job as an LPN asked me to come back and offered me 65k right out of school and a schedule that would allow to continue taking classes. With these 2 offers I went with the NP route. When I entered the program I had bought a home and settled in for school. Ever since everything has been falling apart. First right when I started they announced that almost all of the classes were going to be offered only online. One of the reasons I had liked my school's program is that every class was in a brick and mortar setting and there were very experienced instructors. Well I found out also that the school had lost its 3 most experienced instructors and that we now had a brand new just graduated DNP to teach our core classes, oh and the professor teaching the classes that fall had left 2 weeks before the program began to the surprise of everyone, his old alma mater had made him and another professor an offer and the third one retired. So this teacher who had never taught a class before had two week to create her whole curriculum and it was horrible, though I did feel bad for her. So from here on out the classes where all taught my mostly brand new faculty. Well then after that classes were mostly a joke. I and almost everyone else except for a few had A's in all of the classes. There was zero lectures and most classes had every test and final online at home. Even the only recorded lecture I had was from YOUTUBE. I only had one course that had every other week lectures. When I hit my clinical rotations it finally pushed me over the edge. I had one excellent preceptor who was in a fast track ER who did everything he could to be a good teacher, I thanked him often and did almost double the hours I was supposed to with him. After that it would be months without a preceptor at a time then I would get assigned to one np who was precepting 3 students at a time and since I was so behind from all the time my program could not find a preceptor that I would precept as many days in a row as possible. With my working that I was still doing and the teaching this ended up with me having 3 days off in a two month period. Also since there were always so many students to one preceptor I would only see maybe 2 or 3 patients a day and would just watch others the rest of the time. I finally stopped and took a look at myself. I had been through half of the program and had not learned a damn thing! I was working constantly and felt exhausted and really did not know why I was doing this anymore. Everyone just told me that its OK most people don't learn till after the graduate and get a job anyway, but there was no way I was going to enter a field when I felt completely incompetent. The only reason at this point I had stayed in the program was because after buying a house I had bad water damage and had depleted most of my saving and insurance settlements to remodel it. The market in my area though is crashed and it is hard to sell anything without it being a loss. I have decided I am just going to have to live with the loss. Now I left my program and decided that I need to go to PA school and get the education I wanted in the first place. I am completing a few prerequisites now and hope to apply next cycle. My questions thought is how do I explain starting and not finishing np school. I left in good standing and with excellent grades but don't know how to explain this any shorter way. I just want to say to that I have nothing against NPs in general, I have meet many that are well educated and great professionals. The biggest weakness of the np is the inconsistency of their programs, even the one I was in was well respected at one point but now it is known as a joke. The national exams (yes their are multiple certifying bodies you can chose from) have a very low standard (I passed several mock exams after one semester in the program). This makes it hard for some entering the field and someone evaluating a new grad to know if they are competent or not. Also the specialized model is now largely ignored and all are being trained as generalist but without the full training and rotations. This is just my 2 cents, I appreciate any input that someone can give me and thanks for letting me vent that! S. Wow sorry u had to go through that. I have no experience in leaving one training prog then applying to a completely different one, but, I can assume your leaving would come under scrutiny. In this instance you can only explain your situation honestly. I mean what else can you do? Lie? Prob not the best solution. I think you have to explain your situation to the adcom thru your app/PS and see where it gets you. There are no guarantees in life. Best wishes to you! Sent from my myTouch_4G_Slide using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelseff Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Just to start let me say that I have never been one for posting much on forums but have always been someone who looked and searched to death and have found a lot of good advice. At this point though I find few who can relate to my situation.So here it goes sorry for the long post... I have been working as a nurse for just about 8 years. It has been a good profession that I have taken a lot from and enjoyed. I started out getting my LPN through a tech school and then working through community college on to a university where I received my BSN and RN. At this point I did not wish to stop school and I stood at a point of choosing where to go. I visited several PA schools and spoke with several PA's I had met through work. I saw the training and was very impressed at what was offered to students of several schools. I also investigated the NP route as well. I had just spent the last two years in school with many of them as my teachers. I even meet with representatives and members of the adcom at my states med school. In the end I decided med school was not for me, I always enjoyed being an important part of a team that made it better rather than always trying to be the leader and I did not want to be in school til I was 40. My school where I received my BS then made me an offer, to go to NP school part time and free. I had previously been a peer tutor and because of my experience as an LPN they said they would allow me to instruct undergraduate clinical groups 1 day per week and that would cover my tuition. At the same time my former job as an LPN asked me to come back and offered me 65k right out of school and a schedule that would allow to continue taking classes. With these 2 offers I went with the NP route. When I entered the program I had bought a home and settled in for school. Ever since everything has been falling apart. First right when I started they announced that almost all of the classes were going to be offered only online. One of the reasons I had liked my school's program is that every class was in a brick and mortar setting and there were very experienced instructors. Well I found out also that the school had lost its 3 most experienced instructors and that we now had a brand new just graduated DNP to teach our core classes, oh and the professor teaching the classes that fall had left 2 weeks before the program began to the surprise of everyone, his old alma mater had made him and another professor an offer and the third one retired. So this teacher who had never taught a class before had two week to create her whole curriculum and it was horrible, though I did feel bad for her. So from here on out the classes where all taught my mostly brand new faculty. Well then after that classes were mostly a joke. I and almost everyone else except for a few had A's in all of the classes. There was zero lectures and most classes had every test and final online at home. Even the only recorded lecture I had was from YOUTUBE. I only had one course that had every other week lectures. When I hit my clinical rotations it finally pushed me over the edge. I had one excellent preceptor who was in a fast track ER who did everything he could to be a good teacher, I thanked him often and did almost double the hours I was supposed to with him. After that it would be months without a preceptor at a time then I would get assigned to one np who was precepting 3 students at a time and since I was so behind from all the time my program could not find a preceptor that I would precept as many days in a row as possible. With my working that I was still doing and the teaching this ended up with me having 3 days off in a two month period. Also since there were always so many students to one preceptor I would only see maybe 2 or 3 patients a day and would just watch others the rest of the time. I finally stopped and took a look at myself. I had been through half of the program and had not learned a damn thing! I was working constantly and felt exhausted and really did not know why I was doing this anymore. Everyone just told me that its OK most people don't learn till after the graduate and get a job anyway, but there was no way I was going to enter a field when I felt completely incompetent. The only reason at this point I had stayed in the program was because after buying a house I had bad water damage and had depleted most of my saving and insurance settlements to remodel it. The market in my area though is crashed and it is hard to sell anything without it being a loss. I have decided I am just going to have to live with the loss. Now I left my program and decided that I need to go to PA school and get the education I wanted in the first place. I am completing a few prerequisites now and hope to apply next cycle. My questions thought is how do I explain starting and not finishing np school. I left in good standing and with excellent grades but don't know how to explain this any shorter way. I just want to say to that I have nothing against NPs in general, I have meet many that are well educated and great professionals. The biggest weakness of the np is the inconsistency of their programs, even the one I was in was well respected at one point but now it is known as a joke. The national exams (yes their are multiple certifying bodies you can chose from) have a very low standard (I passed several mock exams after one semester in the program). This makes it hard for some entering the field and someone evaluating a new grad to know if they are competent or not. Also the specialized model is now largely ignored and all are being trained as generalist but without the full training and rotations. This is just my 2 cents, I appreciate any input that someone can give me and thanks for letting me vent that! S. Wow sorry u had to go through that. I have no experience in leaving one training prog then applying to a completely different one, but, I can assume your leaving would come under scrutiny. In this instance you can only explain your situation honestly. I mean what else can you do? Lie? Prob not the best solution. I think you have to explain your situation to the adcom thru your app/PS and see where it gets you. There are no guarantees in life. Best wishes to you! Sent from my myTouch_4G_Slide using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marilynpac Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Online...part time and free....where? I'm so there..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marilynpac Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Online...part time and free....where? I'm so there..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatcat Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 To answer your question on your query about how to explain your exit from a NP program~I think you just expressed yourself very well on your decision to separate from a professional program that lacked a good foundation of basic skills. Most Pas are well aware of the disparity in PA versus NP training..and this gap in professional standards persist for such things as recertification once graduates enter the job market. PA programs will not view your separation from the NP track as negative given you left in good standing . Best of luck as you pursue education as a PA. I think you will find the caliber of PA education to be academically rigorous and the oversight of accreditation of PA programs to be one of high standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatcat Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 To answer your question on your query about how to explain your exit from a NP program~I think you just expressed yourself very well on your decision to separate from a professional program that lacked a good foundation of basic skills. Most Pas are well aware of the disparity in PA versus NP training..and this gap in professional standards persist for such things as recertification once graduates enter the job market. PA programs will not view your separation from the NP track as negative given you left in good standing . Best of luck as you pursue education as a PA. I think you will find the caliber of PA education to be academically rigorous and the oversight of accreditation of PA programs to be one of high standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator LT_Oneal_PAC Posted June 15, 2012 Moderator Share Posted June 15, 2012 I have gone through NP school (half) as well and start PA this fall. Just PM me and I'll help you out with questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator LT_Oneal_PAC Posted June 15, 2012 Moderator Share Posted June 15, 2012 I have gone through NP school (half) as well and start PA this fall. Just PM me and I'll help you out with questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seijou Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Just curious, can't you look into a better NP program? The problem isn't with the education of NPs - it seems to be with your school. Is it important to you to switch from NP route to the PA route? Also, this is just a random thought but I thought your thread title was a bit misleading. I almost thought you were going to say there was something wrong with NP education in general before reading your entire post... But I would be opposed to any online program even if it was a PA program (I can't believe they have online CNA programs....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seijou Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Just curious, can't you look into a better NP program? The problem isn't with the education of NPs - it seems to be with your school. Is it important to you to switch from NP route to the PA route? Also, this is just a random thought but I thought your thread title was a bit misleading. I almost thought you were going to say there was something wrong with NP education in general before reading your entire post... But I would be opposed to any online program even if it was a PA program (I can't believe they have online CNA programs....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sts0001 Posted June 15, 2012 Author Share Posted June 15, 2012 Well to start let me say thanks to everyone for their time and advice I appreciate it a lot. To respond to the questions I believe going to another NP program would not be my choice again. I feel now that the education as a whole is not going to be sufficient for what I want. Not to mention the fact I have never heard of a PA program turning into an online program overnight; I don't think that would fly. The point I was trying to make about NP programs that was the warning to the inconsistencies from one program to the next and in my case even the same program over time. I believe this is a huge problem for NPs. Even now I will say their could be a place for their training if they actually utilized their model correctly for what it was originally conceived to accomplish. NPs were born out of a model to be very focused with only specific advanced assessment skills taught. The first NP was only to work in a pediatric setting and to do mostly well child screening for an area that had only one pediatrician for several hundred miles. If there was an abnormal on exam, a protocol written by the physician was to be followed and the physician had to be notified to give further direction. Now the thing was that the nurse could not see a patient population bigger that a certain age range and had to have experience in that setting under a physician first to receive the advanced training.You can see how to focus was intended to be very narrow and would have been suited to nursing education well. I believe recently though with the push of the FNP in the last twenty plus years the goal has been to expand the patient population seen by the NP to be as broad as possible. They say now the focus is on the level of care and not exculsively the patient population. This has basically made the training offered inadequate, in my opinion, for most cases. I do want to say though that those NPs that I know and respect follow the traditional model. They practiced in an environment as an RN for a extended period of time then went back for advanced training in just the area they intended to practice. (This can be very difficult to do anymore.) They now work in a focused role and work hand in hand with a physician. Many of these NPs have problems with the current curriculum and the push toward the DNP and the unlimited scope and setting of care. I with leave that for another conversation. Several NPs have told me they think it is ruining what was great about the original model in the first place. I did not have a full understand of this unfortunately until I had come as far in the program as I did. I was trying to move up to work in a large scope but still with a physician, I now see that the scope I wanted to practice in needed further and better training that what I am likely to get in any NP program. I feel much more comfortable now pursuing the education of a PA and appreciate the work that I need to do to be a good provider. I will pm as well thanks for letting me know I am not the only one who has been here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sts0001 Posted June 15, 2012 Author Share Posted June 15, 2012 Well to start let me say thanks to everyone for their time and advice I appreciate it a lot. To respond to the questions I believe going to another NP program would not be my choice again. I feel now that the education as a whole is not going to be sufficient for what I want. Not to mention the fact I have never heard of a PA program turning into an online program overnight; I don't think that would fly. The point I was trying to make about NP programs that was the warning to the inconsistencies from one program to the next and in my case even the same program over time. I believe this is a huge problem for NPs. Even now I will say their could be a place for their training if they actually utilized their model correctly for what it was originally conceived to accomplish. NPs were born out of a model to be very focused with only specific advanced assessment skills taught. The first NP was only to work in a pediatric setting and to do mostly well child screening for an area that had only one pediatrician for several hundred miles. If there was an abnormal on exam, a protocol written by the physician was to be followed and the physician had to be notified to give further direction. Now the thing was that the nurse could not see a patient population bigger that a certain age range and had to have experience in that setting under a physician first to receive the advanced training.You can see how to focus was intended to be very narrow and would have been suited to nursing education well. I believe recently though with the push of the FNP in the last twenty plus years the goal has been to expand the patient population seen by the NP to be as broad as possible. They say now the focus is on the level of care and not exculsively the patient population. This has basically made the training offered inadequate, in my opinion, for most cases. I do want to say though that those NPs that I know and respect follow the traditional model. They practiced in an environment as an RN for a extended period of time then went back for advanced training in just the area they intended to practice. (This can be very difficult to do anymore.) They now work in a focused role and work hand in hand with a physician. Many of these NPs have problems with the current curriculum and the push toward the DNP and the unlimited scope and setting of care. I with leave that for another conversation. Several NPs have told me they think it is ruining what was great about the original model in the first place. I did not have a full understand of this unfortunately until I had come as far in the program as I did. I was trying to move up to work in a large scope but still with a physician, I now see that the scope I wanted to practice in needed further and better training that what I am likely to get in any NP program. I feel much more comfortable now pursuing the education of a PA and appreciate the work that I need to do to be a good provider. I will pm as well thanks for letting me know I am not the only one who has been here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator True Anomaly Posted June 15, 2012 Moderator Share Posted June 15, 2012 Fascinating. Thank you for sharing your story- I've never heard of a detailed history of how the NP evolved and how training programs have somewhat changed recently. You are correct- a PA program could never go "online" suddenly, especially to the extent you've detailed with your NP program. As others have said above, the standards are rigorous and are only through one governing body. I'm sorry you had a bad experience with your program, but again as others have alluded to above, if you're honest in your personal statement and your interviews you shouldn't run into any troubles with an admissions committee. Best of luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator True Anomaly Posted June 15, 2012 Moderator Share Posted June 15, 2012 Fascinating. Thank you for sharing your story- I've never heard of a detailed history of how the NP evolved and how training programs have somewhat changed recently. You are correct- a PA program could never go "online" suddenly, especially to the extent you've detailed with your NP program. As others have said above, the standards are rigorous and are only through one governing body. I'm sorry you had a bad experience with your program, but again as others have alluded to above, if you're honest in your personal statement and your interviews you shouldn't run into any troubles with an admissions committee. Best of luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjohnson3604 Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Just to add encouragement, our program has accepted people who've left Med School, NP School, PT School..all for various reasons. Best wishes, I'd love to know how it all turns out for you ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjohnson3604 Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Just to add encouragement, our program has accepted people who've left Med School, NP School, PT School..all for various reasons. Best wishes, I'd love to know how it all turns out for you ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corpsman2PA Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Fascinating. Thank you for sharing your story- I've never heard of a detailed history of how the NP evolved and how training programs have somewhat changed recently. You are correct- a PA program could never go "online" suddenly, especially to the extent you've detailed with your NP program. As others have said above, the standards are rigorous and are only through one governing body. Kind of off topic, but not really-those Pre-PAs wanting to better explain "why PA over NP" could use this as a bullet point when applying to PA school. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corpsman2PA Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Fascinating. Thank you for sharing your story- I've never heard of a detailed history of how the NP evolved and how training programs have somewhat changed recently. You are correct- a PA program could never go "online" suddenly, especially to the extent you've detailed with your NP program. As others have said above, the standards are rigorous and are only through one governing body. Kind of off topic, but not really-those Pre-PAs wanting to better explain "why PA over NP" could use this as a bullet point when applying to PA school. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator rev ronin Posted June 16, 2012 Administrator Share Posted June 16, 2012 Online...part time and free....where? I'm so there..... Nothing that is easily achieved is of any lasting value. TINSTAAFL. However you want to put it... PA's are paid well because the path to become one is hard, and the work is necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator rev ronin Posted June 16, 2012 Administrator Share Posted June 16, 2012 Online...part time and free....where? I'm so there..... Nothing that is easily achieved is of any lasting value. TINSTAAFL. However you want to put it... PA's are paid well because the path to become one is hard, and the work is necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMD16 Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Be honest in your explanation to why PA as suppose to NP and you will be fine. Appreciate for sharing your story. Best of luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMD16 Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Be honest in your explanation to why PA as suppose to NP and you will be fine. Appreciate for sharing your story. Best of luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joanna.nola Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Thanks for sharing your story. I think you'll be an excellent PA. I think most programs would be thrilled to have you join them. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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