PC2ED Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 Dear PAs,Attached, you'll see a link that will take you to an online survey, where you can participate in a petition to "Grant PAs Full Practice Authority to function as Licensed Independent Practitioners in Federal jurisdictions." We need 84,493 signatures by May 4, 2020 to get a response from the White House. currently we have about 15,000 signatures.Please complete and forward this link to your PA friends, colleagues, PA program and every PAs you know. Until this COVID-19 pandemic, a lot of us thought that being a PA equates to job security. However, if you're keeping yourself informed, you'll hear about certain hospital systems furloughing and even firing their APPs altogether when their census decrease.Our colleague NPs are fighting for the advancement of their profession and they are being very successful. It is our duty to fight for the advancement of our profession and also our right to prove that we must to be part of the conversation.Grant PAs Full Practice Authority to function as Licensed Independent Practitioners in Federal jurisdictions | We the People: Your Voice in Our Government<https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/grant-pas-full-practice-authority-function-licensed-independent-practitioners-federal-jurisdictions>petitions.whitehouse.gov 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobuddy Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 (edited) signed and have sent to all PA schools in KY to have students sign as well. Posted on KAPA website and FB pages Edited April 16, 2020 by bobuddy Content 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal_PA Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 Signed and sent to a few online groups a couple of weeks back. Doesn't look like we will make the cut unless a big swing happens... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SedRate Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 Please send to non-PAs too! I sent to friends, reps, RNs, layfolk, etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelseff Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 I think I signed this like 4 or 5x [emoji23]Now... With all the clamoring I hear from PAs who want independence, why only 15k signatures? Why didn't AAPA or state chapters or even PAFT send this out as a media blast? Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SedRate Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Joelseff said: I think I signed this like 4 or 5x Now... With all the clamoring I hear from PAs who want independence, why only 15k signatures? Why didn't AAPA or state chapters or even PAFT send this out as a media blast? Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk @sas5814 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SedRate Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 I sent out a blast to my social network an hour ago and now there are 60 more signatures. C'mon y'all. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelseff Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 I just did a linked in blast and texted all the PAs I have phone numbers for... Gotta get this one through. It would be huge! I also emailed CAPA and asked them why they aren't promoting this. Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SedRate Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 13 minutes ago, Joelseff said: I just did a linked in blast and texted all the PAs I have phone numbers for... Gotta get this one through. It would be huge! I also emailed CAPA and asked them why they aren't promoting this. Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk I emailed my alma mater and will email my state association too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelseff Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 I asked some physician colleagues whom I know are pro PA too. Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pa-wannabe Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Signed and forwarded to others. There are over 100,000 PAs in the nation. If this petition can't gather the minimum amount of signatures from healthcare workers, friends, family, etc. I will lose hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hope2PA Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 I haven’t check with AAPA, but didn’t see petition on their site and wonder why they aren’t sending it out. It is true, at least some state associations are not aware or passing info along. I called my current state and they had no idea, but agreed to “look into it” and consider forwarding to PA’s with license. In the meantime, few more non-PA’s said they signed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pa-wannabe Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 11 minutes ago, Hope2PA said: I haven’t check with AAPA, but didn’t see petition on their site and wonder why they aren’t sending it out. It is true, at least some state associations are not aware or passing info along. I called my current state and they had no idea, but agreed to “look into it” and consider forwarding to PA’s with license. In the meantime, few more non-PA’s said they signed. I reached out to my state society today. "Thank you for sharing." Really hoping that means more than I think it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kang1208 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 I think we shouldn't put all the eggs in one basket...sure it's great if we can get all the signatures and we need to, but at this rate I'm not so sure. We need to think about plans B and C right now in case if this petition didn't reach the white house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hope2PA Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 1 hour ago, kang1208 said: I think we shouldn't put all the eggs in one basket...sure it's great if we can get all the signatures and we need to, but at this rate I'm not so sure. We need to think about plans B and C right now in case if this petition didn't reach the white house. Coming together as a group for this goal could be almost as important. The more PA’s, and non PA’s , talk about and take the time to stand behind the profession bodes well for the future. It doesn’t look promising at this time, however, how much top down (national and state level) exposure has it been given this far. Higher number of signatures show stronger unity, which is apparently a problem within the PA profession. How many PA’s have donated at least the $1? Even if furloughed, won’t break the bank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SedRate Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 At this rate, we won't get there, but it's great to increase awareness and open up discussion. My spouse forwarded to friends and it's nice to hear their support. I sent to family and we had a great discussion about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SedRate Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 (edited) Sent out another blast to AAPA (all the relevant emails I could find, lol) and state PA board. @Cideous, where you at? Usually see you comment on these topics. It's lonely here without you. Edited April 17, 2020 by SedRate 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cideous Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Done done and done! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PC2ED Posted April 18, 2020 Author Share Posted April 18, 2020 Let's continue to push this forward guys!! post the link on your facebook, instagram, twitter, reddit send to your friends, your schools and family Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sas5814 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 On 4/15/2020 at 1:56 PM, SedRate said: @sas5814 I have been absent from the forums due to ...well...life so I haven't been following things as closely as I usually do. Here is my observation and it is just one man's opinion. PAFT started a petition. Another group, thinking they could do the same thing better, started another similar petition. People started asking why 2 petitions? Why wasn't this group supporting that group? Why why why? Then some states started petitons for the White House. Then there was a PPE petition to the White House. Then petitions to state legislators and Governors. People are confused and burned out on petitions. Getting 100k signatures in 30 days is a tall mountain to climb and when different groups started getting into other groups lane of traffic it all crapped out. If you are receiving these petitions (ie the White House or a legislator) they would seem scattered and unfocused so they go in the "meh" pile. Significant efforts to do big things require focus and concentration and energy. We haven't had much of that. There are too many people and groups worried about making a name for themselves or who is in charge. The result is very little getting done. Now most of the momentum is gone. The opportunities that existed 3 weeks ago have pretty much been dithered away. It is time for everyone and every group to get back in their lane of traffic and focus on their issues with an eye towards collaboration where it may be helpful. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelseff Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 I have been absent from the forums due to ...well...life so I haven't been following things as closely as I usually do. Here is my observation and it is just one man's opinion. PAFT started a petition. Another group, thinking they could do the same thing better, started another similar petition. People started asking why 2 petitions? Why wasn't this group supporting that group? Why why why? Then some states started petitons for the White House. Then there was a PPE petition to the White House. Then petitions to state legislators and Governors. People are confused and burned out on petitions. Getting 100k signatures in 30 days is a tall mountain to climb and when different groups started getting into other groups lane of traffic it all crapped out. If you are receiving these petitions (ie the White House or a legislator) they would seem scattered and unfocused so they go in the "meh" pile. Significant efforts to do big things require focus and concentration and energy. We haven't had much of that. There are too many people and groups worried about making a name for themselves or who is in charge. The result is very little getting done. Now most of the momentum is gone. The opportunities that existed 3 weeks ago have pretty much been dithered away. It is time for everyone and every group to get back in their lane of traffic and focus on their issues with an eye towards collaboration where it may be helpful.Thanks for explaining that. That makes sense. I can see the panic in a lot of PAs during this time and can see why various groups would start petitions. I for one was inundated with petitions and did think it was rather chaotic... I agree with you that we need to be united in our endeavors that was why I asked why our PA groups (AAPA, PAFT, States etc) were not the ones pushing this.Now, having said that, do you see a united petition some time down the road? Is there consensus in the leadership regarding FPA? Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SedRate Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 22 hours ago, sas5814 said: I have been absent from the forums due to ...well...life so I haven't been following things as closely as I usually do. Here is my observation and it is just one man's opinion. PAFT started a petition. Another group, thinking they could do the same thing better, started another similar petition. People started asking why 2 petitions? Why wasn't this group supporting that group? Why why why? Then some states started petitons for the White House. Then there was a PPE petition to the White House. Then petitions to state legislators and Governors. People are confused and burned out on petitions. Getting 100k signatures in 30 days is a tall mountain to climb and when different groups started getting into other groups lane of traffic it all crapped out. If you are receiving these petitions (ie the White House or a legislator) they would seem scattered and unfocused so they go in the "meh" pile. Significant efforts to do big things require focus and concentration and energy. We haven't had much of that. There are too many people and groups worried about making a name for themselves or who is in charge. The result is very little getting done. Now most of the momentum is gone. The opportunities that existed 3 weeks ago have pretty much been dithered away. It is time for everyone and every group to get back in their lane of traffic and focus on their issues with an eye towards collaboration where it may be helpful. Thank you for explaining and welcome back I am assuming then, that the general consensus is not necessarily supportive of FPA. I can see both sides of the coin, for and against. Earlier on, I was against. I liked having the safety blanket of a doc and thought that made me a more desirable candidate to docs over an independent practitioner. But after switching jobs and realizing that I was just chump change, I don't want to be tied to anyone anymore. I don't want the REAL powers that be -- the C suite and admin -- to be able to dictate that I am less able to provide or less important to patient care because I am an "assistant" who requires "supervision." And don't even get me started on all the physicians and NPs who claim to not know the abilities of PAs and continue to treat us as scribes and gophers who they seat at the little kid table. I do hope the powers that be in the PA world start to pedal a little faster, especially those who may now have more time of their hands, on developing and collecting a unified response. NPs have over double the number of practicing providers than we do and continue to gain steam. As the structure of healthcare begins to change with all that's going on, I can only imagine how this will affect the PA profession given our dependent status and assistant name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kang1208 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 Can this petition be shared to "PA student general discussion" and "Pre-PA general discussion" on this forum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SedRate Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 4 hours ago, kang1208 said: Can this petition be shared to "PA student general discussion" and "Pre-PA general discussion" on this forum? Done. I would think it is appropriate for the public and future PA colleagues to be involved in the discussion as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictorOfHungerGames Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 Pharmacist here I signed. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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