mgriffiths Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 26 minutes ago, ventana said: "First do no harm" Is it wrong to interpret this as something that also applies to ourselves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohiovolffemtp Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 hour ago, ventana said: "Really you don't think the modern manufacturing systems could not fix this in < 48 hours? Sure it would be expensive, but they could do it. They are just waiting till it is a must do..... Actually, depending upon the manufacturing line, it can be very hard to re-configure it to manufacture something different. For example, changing a bottle filling line to fill a different size bottle with a different type liquid, add a different label, and add a different top - not too bad. To change a soft goods line to make masks where you have multiple different materials: paper, elastic, metal, plastic - would be far more difficult. (spent 25 years at a Fortune 50 consumer goods company pre-PA). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator ventana Posted March 31, 2020 Moderator Share Posted March 31, 2020 19 hours ago, mgriffiths said: Is it wrong to interpret this as something that also applies to ourselves? no, that is my point if we all John Wayne this and we all get sick and die then there is no one left to do our jobs sometimes times the greater good has to prevail - saying no might be the harder choice 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAdamsPAC Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 8 minutes ago, ventana said: no, that is my point if we all John Wayne this and we all get sick and die then there is no one left to do our jobs sometimes times the greater good has to prevail - saying no might be the harder choice How many "Suits" have become ill or are at risk due caring for patients while being under equipped with PPE? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator ventana Posted March 31, 2020 Moderator Share Posted March 31, 2020 35 minutes ago, CAdamsPAC said: How many "Suits" have become ill or are at risk due caring for patients while being under equipped with PPE? drum rollllll NONE they are all "telecommuting" keeping their ARSS safe at home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAdamsPAC Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 20 minutes ago, ventana said: drum rollllll NONE they are all "telecommuting" keeping their ARSS safe at home And...........getting paid without the threat of layoffs or furloughs!!! Someone has to keep track of those Press Ganey Scores!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAdamsPAC Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 When this blows over, the clinicians must unite and revolt against the CPAs, MBAs and attorneys now " leading" healthcare!!!! They have been tested by fire and by most accounts found lacking! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted March 31, 2020 Moderator Share Posted March 31, 2020 Nice change at my facility: the medical director has done away with all the silly triage questions that generally are not relevant 99.9% of the time and just delay us seeing the pt like "do you feel safe in your home?" and" how many times this yr have you had more than 5 alcoholic beverages?" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAdamsPAC Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 33 minutes ago, EMEDPA said: Nice change at my facility: the medical director has done away with all the silly triage questions that generally are not relevant 99.9% of the time and just delay us seeing the pt like "do you feel safe in your home?" and" how many times this yr have you had more than 5 alcoholic beverages?" Are they still checking for the 5th vital sign? LOL! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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