IPPA10 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 HI All, I work in inpatient medicine and recently had our CME benefits abruptly decreased without notice. So... doing some market research. Would you mind replying where you work (geographically) and in which field of medicine... how much CME reimbursement your employer pays per year, any CME time off per year, and is you DEA and state license part of CME reimbursements or separate funds? I found a thread on this topic, but it was from 2013, I would like more up to date information. My stats for others...I work inpatient medicine in Rochester, NY. We get $1750 CME and 40 hours per year. DEA and licenses are taken out of our CME money. Your help is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohiovolffemtp Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Former FT EM job: $2500 for CME, but all licenses, DEA, etc had to come from it. New FT EM job, no CME, but $20/hour higher pay. New employer did pay for all licensing fees and DEA to work in a new state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooko12 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Surgery (employed by health system) in Pacific Northwest, $3000 CME annually, 40 hours, licensing fees reimbursed with separate fund but membership dues come from CME fund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MediMike Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 PNW, Critcare with large system. $2500 CME, professional membership + DEA + License provided outside of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnedintoamartian Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Midwest. two major health systems as employers. 1st gives 3500 and 5 days CME. Licensing and all come from that fund. 2nd is 2250 with 10 days CME, licensing and required are separate. No changes for PAs based upon specialty, just across the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cideous Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 $1200/year for everything. If your DEA comes up that year it comes out of the $1200. So does state license. Frequently it doesn't cover both if they come up in the same year. Better then $0 which is what I got when I did locums full-time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SedRate Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Southwest, surgical subspecialty private practice, $2000 for CME-related expenses, CME days taken out of PTO pool, and they cover any and all business expenses (DEA, licensing, credentialing) in addition to CME allowance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogLovingPA Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 SE Virginia. Currently in UC with a very generous 5K for everything, no time off. Moving to ER at end of the month with $2500 for everything, no time off (but other benefits in ER much better). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSPAC Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 PNW. Family medicine at an FQHC. $2500 is strictly CME money (but that is before tax so it's more like ~$1700). 40 CME hours separate from 21 days PTO. Employer covers DEA, licensing, professional memberships, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check 2 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 VA - actually zero CME funds but you can submit mission critical CME and might get it covered. No extra time off as CME. That said - VA provides a great deal on site and TMS computer system that is Category I and II. We have full UptoDate account for free. VA has their own CME - some required with paid travel. Any time off is not counted against PTO. DEA is federal exempt - $0 cost but only works at the VA or govt. I pay my state license and all NCCPA fees and recert fees - no longer tax deductible. All memberships are self pay. It works for me. This cycle I have 40 extra Cat I hours and I haven’t paid for any of them. Docs get a separate plan, so I hear. So far, my version is fine for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexapro Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 2k/year for CME. All license renewals/DEA/etc are not taken out of CME. It's not great but our PTO and 401k match are pretty great so what can you do. *shrug* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal_PA Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 $1500/yr which can roll over to the next year for a max of $3k One week PTO paid time off/year Licensing, DEA, etc is paid from a separate account Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sas5814 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 UC. Recently increased from $1200 to $2500 after I questioned why the physician sitting next to me got 6k. baby steps I suppose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatswain2PA Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 On 8/20/2019 at 11:07 AM, MSPAC said: PNW. Family medicine at an FQHC. $2500 is strictly CME money (but that is before tax so it's more like ~$1700). What? You shouldnt have to pay taxes on reimbursement for CME. Better to have them cut you a separate check for that and not withhold it or declare it on your W2. They write it of ass a business expense, so everyone wins. $2k for CME, licensure separate, and 40 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sas5814 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 It depends. If I use my CME money for a conference it isn't taxable. If I use the available option to purchase a new laptop or cell phone it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSPAC Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 On 8/23/2019 at 6:08 AM, Boatswain2PA said: What? You shouldnt have to pay taxes on reimbursement for CME. Better to have them cut you a separate check for that and not withhold it or declare it on your W2. They write it of ass a business expense, so everyone wins. I've brought this up but my place of employment is run by idiots set on their archaic ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrainAndCo Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Merritt Hawkins puts out a report that includes this kind of thing each year. There might be information in it you can use. Here's the latest one:https://www.merritthawkins.com/uploadedFiles/Merritt_Hawkins_2018_incentive_review.pdfJordan G Roberts, PA-CModernMedEd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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