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I am not sure what to do. I started college when I was 16 and didn't to well at all. My average there is about a 2.20, my current gpa is 3.4 at the new college I am attending. Should I even acknowlegde that I went to this other college? I have a lot of W's there and some F's, and some in science courses. Some of these courses transfered over to the new college. I could just take some of the core classes over, but I don't want to start my PA career with a lie like this, but I also really want to get in my first time. Any suggestions? Thank you in advance.

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Could you get in without submitting all transcripts? Probably. Will you eventually be found out? More than likely. I won't address integrity issues with this scenario because I think that is self explanatory. As evidenced in these forums, plenty of people have been accepted despite prior academic failures. It just takes a 180 degree turnaround. Keep getting good grades and build up a good amount of HCE hrs (4,000+). You may not get in your first cycle but I think you would be much happier with yourself If you did it the right way.

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Should I even acknowlegde that I went to this other college?

You have to. I mean, even if I stretch to imagine a scenario in which you got into a school by successfully covering up your history, you would have to lie every day for at least 2 years in order to make it through PA. At the beginning of the first year especially, there is a lot of chitchat and getting to know you stuff. You'll make yourself sick trying to keep your lies straight when your classmates and professors ask you about your backstory. You will sit through ethics classes with a red face and rapid pulse, knowing that YOU are the person you're being warned against becoming.

 

I could just take some of the core classes over,

Good idea. Suck it up. Prove to yourself and your future colleagues that you have the fortitude to own up to your past and correct it without cheating. A cheating student becomes a cheating PA, and that's bad for everyone.

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I'd rather have a PA colleague/provider who has screwed up, admitted it, fixed it then gone on to excel versus one who pretended it never happened, lied and didn't learn from it. That's a bit immature, no? You are not the first and won't be the last to be in a less than stellar situation. As mentioned, your path is an uphill one, but it's doable. You seem to be doing better this second time: focus on that positive change and keep working at it.

 

Also, if some of your classes transferred to your new university, it's going to say where they came from. Whoever reviews your new uni transcript is probably going to wonder where the rest of your transcript is. I imagine you'd be pretty easily caught.

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I am not sure what to do. I started college when I was 16 and didn't to well at all. My average there is about a 2.20, my current gpa is 3.4 at the new college I am attending. Should I even acknowlegde that I went to this other college? I have a lot of W's there and some F's, and some in science courses. Some of these courses transfered over to the new college. I could just take some of the core classes over, but I don't want to start my PA career with a lie like this, but I also really want to get in my first time. Any suggestions? Thank you in advance.

 

If classes transferred over to your new college I can almost guarantee that there is a paper trail of where the classes transferred from and Id bet if you look at your official transcript that school will be mentioned. Let me ask you this. If you are supposed to report ALL college classes, do you think it is ethical to omit things that dont seem to work in your favor????

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Seriously? Do you think your needs are so much more important than others that you would consider lying and cheating your way in? You were 16, younger than most, so ADCOM's will definitely consider that when they look at your coursework. The part that bothers me the most is that you obviously haven't matured much since then to be considering this. I've heard people say they were switching schools so they could apply to medical school without their bad coursework, and that makes me sick. The fact that you are actually considering this leads me to believe you really need to reconsider healthcare as a whole.

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Although I am not in the same situation, I too have an extremely low GPA from my first 3 years in college when I struggled with many personal issues. I have worked extremely hard to overcome a lot of difficulties and retake courses, as well as take on challenging coursework to demonstrate my ability to handle the material and show my dedication towards my dream of becoming a PA. It is my belief that if you want something bad enough you will find a way and not give up until you have reached your goal. With that being said, I would not "lie" about your previous bad grades. Like others have mentioned, it has a very good chance of coming up somewhere along the line. I think the most important thing would be that you have learned and matured from whatever it is that caused you to have the W's and F's, and continue to work hard to demonstrate your dedication and ability to handle the coursework.

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It's lying if she takes those courses in another college but at the end she has two transcript with the same classes, one with the W and F and the other with a better grades? I dont think that if she submitt both with her application is lying. Then, she's going to have to explain the why. Please, correct me if I'm wrong.

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He/She is lying if he/she decides to not report the old transcripts on CASPA. One: It WILL be found out; Two: It's not very fair to the other applicants, like me, who disclosed their academic history like they were supposed to.

 

I earned any previous bad grades that I have the old fashioned way....by not doing well enough. I didn't perform, therefore I take the hit. I will be measured accordingly. The OP has to take responsibility for their past. The solution is simple....show a trend of improvement.

 

PA's are supposed to be able to think critically. The original question should never even cross a potential PA's mind.

 

I think I'm getting old and crotchety. :;;D:

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