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Hi guys, so like many of the people here I want to move to Cali, I spent a month there last summer and went from the bottom to the top and back down again..zig zagging my way through hitting stuff I wanted to see like yosemite, sequoia, so cal, nappa, pch, tahoe and other stuff.

I realize the gas is expensive, the taxes and stuff suck, houses are all expensive and there's a lot of crime. I still want to go though, its the most beautiful state I've ever seen and the food was great, also my dads from LA and I have family all over. I also don't have a family and I don't want a house or much else for that matter...

Anyhow I only wrote that simply to dissuade people from posting negative stuff, I'm more after candid answers about how I should possibly go about my move.

I live in CT so its no stones throw away, my questions are along the lines of;

should I apply to schools out west and hope to get in and start working in Cali after or apply to schools here and try and move out west afterward and get a job?

this question is multifaceted in that I wouldn't know if there is bias for accepting out of state students vs in state students?(so should i move there first ...) and if its difficult to get a job out of state after completing a program elsewhere?

also if anyone knows good schools in Cali id be happy to hear about them besides Stanford its too expensive.

 

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In general, it's harder to find a job in a different state from where you went to school. The best place to make connections is on your rotations, and it's way easier to do a rotation in California if you're going to school here. 

That being said, obviously the negative things you mentioned are for the most part true (aside from the crime thing in my opinion - I've lived in Michigan and Chicago and don't notice crime being worse in California). Reiterating that to say that you may end up taking out more loans/need more savings to go to school in California than you might elsewhere, in order to provide for housing and other cost of living expenses. 

There are a ton of schools in California, and I work with PAs who have attended pretty much all of them in the Bay area (Touro, Samuel Merritt, Stanford) and I'm somewhat familiar with the Dominican program. The PAs I've worked with from these schools are fantastic. 

I didn't apply to California schools, but the majority of schools I applied to were out of state. I got interviews at most of them. I wouldn't limit yourself to applying just in geographic location. 

 

Good luck! California is incredible and beautiful. I've never regretted my choice to move out here. 

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State schools like UC Davis have in-state bias, but any of the private programs will take people from anywhere. You'll likely see more students enrolled from California simply due to the fact that more students from there apply; thus a reflection of the applicant pool as a whole. 

Also, since you're keen on moving out West, you better start acting like you belong ;). Only people who call it "Cali" are east coasties. 

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On 8/26/2018 at 10:02 AM, HanSolo said:

Also, since you're keen on moving out West, you better start acting like you belong ;). Only people who call it "Cali" are east coasties. 

Ha ha...so true. And if you end up moving to San Francisco call it "The City" because if you call it Frisco I think they throw you out. 

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We do. I cringe at San Fran, but Frisco is a one way ticket back home. Only people allowed to use those are people who were born here, and they're like unicorns now. 

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I still call it "Cali".  I moved to Cali in 2000.  Maybe it's more common in my area.  I'm in Bakersfield, or Bako as we call it. 🙂

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I grew up there. We said SoCal and NorCal 🙂 

Never frisco. Agree with "the city". I did undergrad at santa cruz and we would go "to the city" for dinner or special events. 

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keep in mind that the COL in desirable(read within 20 miles of the coast) areas in CA pretty much means a PA can not afford to live there(in their own house) unless they have alternate income source like family money or a wealthy spouse. I would love to live on the CA coast anywhere between SLO and Mendocino. really not an option even on the salary of a senior EM PA with a non-working spouse. 

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I don't know about never being able to buy a house...Living in the city the only thing stopping us from buying a house right now is my $2000/mo student loan payment. San Francisco pays PAs incredibly well compared to other places I've lived, and my partner makes about the same as I do. No family money. Saving for the down payment is the hardest, but we don't have kids so not a big issue to put extra aside for that. Looking to have loans paid off in the next 3-5 years and should realistically be able to buy a 2 bedroom 1 bath here then. 

That being said, unless you really really really want to live in the city/near the coast, the prices are 100% not worth it. 

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2 bed 1 bath is a pretty small house and in SF will probably be 750k or more. In the pacific NW I got a 4 bed 2 bath house with a big yard in a great neighborhood for about 1/3 of that 18 years ago.

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Yeah it will be tiny, but it's enough for us. No interest in kids or a big yard. Sometimes we look at the prices and think there's no way anyone should pay that much for a house, but there's also nowhere (in the US at least) that we would rather live, so here we stay. 

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