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One important thing I've learned from being enrolled in different schools and programs, both grad and undergrad, and working in different facilities for twenty-plus years: it says more about you than the program when you reduce it while you're still working/studying there.  It's like writing a yelp review about how horrible a  restaurant is while you are still working there.  Who wants a person on their team who is trying to be critical of the operations from the outside?  Fix it from within.  Improve it while you're there.  It seems like you have a lot of energy to invest in just that.  If you feel that there is no room for your opinions, then your best bet, to still come off as credible, is to leave.  What disguises itself as a real concern for the complete strangers going through a rough interview month, is actually appearing like a cry for help and an attempt to sabotage the program's current admissions project.  If the word "unprofessional" seems to keep coming up, maybe step back for a second and think about maturity, professionalism, and how to be a leader.  I dare say, this isn't it.

All the best,

Tom

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3 hours ago, SecondCareerPrePA said:

One important thing I've learned from being enrolled in different schools and programs, both grad and undergrad, and working in different facilities for twenty-plus years: it says more about you than the program when you reduce it while you're still working/studying there.  It's like writing a yelp review about how horrible a  restaurant is while you are still working there.  Who wants a person on their team who is trying to be critical of the operations from the outside?  Fix it from within.  Improve it while you're there.  It seems like you have a lot of energy to invest in just that.  If you feel that there is no room for your opinions, then your best bet, to still come off as credible, is to leave.  What disguises itself as a real concern for the complete strangers going through a rough interview month, is actually appearing like a cry for help and an attempt to sabotage the program's current admissions project.  If the word "unprofessional" seems to keep coming up, maybe step back for a second and think about maturity, professionalism, and how to be a leader.  I dare say, this isn't it.

All the best,

Tom

Really ? How out of touch with reality you are! Fix it within ?  Like we all don’t voice our complaints about employers and institutions from time to time! Like we all haven’t sat down with a supervisor or higher up to voice our concerns and NOTHING changed! Y’all really are living in a fantasy world! But go right ahead! Nothing but warped thinking here. 

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3 hours ago, SecondCareerPrePA said:

One important thing I've learned from being enrolled in different schools and programs, both grad and undergrad, and working in different facilities for twenty-plus years: it says more about you than the program when you reduce it while you're still working/studying there.  It's like writing a yelp review about how horrible a  restaurant is while you are still working there.  Who wants a person on their team who is trying to be critical of the operations from the outside?  Fix it from within.  Improve it while you're there.  It seems like you have a lot of energy to invest in just that.  If you feel that there is no room for your opinions, then your best bet, to still come off as credible, is to leave.  What disguises itself as a real concern for the complete strangers going through a rough interview month, is actually appearing like a cry for help and an attempt to sabotage the program's current admissions project.  If the word "unprofessional" seems to keep coming up, maybe step back for a second and think about maturity, professionalism, and how to be a leader.  I dare say, this isn't it.

All the best,

Tom

I believe you have mischaracterized my original comment. I never intended to “reduce” the program. I just wanted people to know that it’s ok to look at other programs and that the program you go to has less to do with your success than personal hard work, and I’ll stand by that comment any day of the week. I’ve never said I personally have been told I am unprofessional so I’m no sure how you’re coming to that conclusion. In fact, I’ve heard the opposite throughout my experience in school and patient care experiences, and I always try to act with integrity. To say you would legitimately quit any uncomfortable situation because you don’t agree with it as a statement of credibility, at the cost of great financial debt, sounds great but is impractical and ineffective at best. Overall, you make a lot of assumptions in your statements regarding me. I don’t know who you are and therefore will not make judgements on you as a person. I’ll leave that to you and your close friends. That is totally antithetical to scientific and objective reasoning and really serves to purpose but to inflame and seek an emotional reaction, which you will not receive from me on this message board.

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2 hours ago, 1234PA1994 said:

I believe you have mischaracterized my original comment. I never intended to “reduce” the program. I just wanted people to know that it’s ok to look at other programs and that the program you go to has less to do with your success than personal hard work, and I’ll stand by that comment any day of the week. I’ve never said I personally have been told I am unprofessional so I’m no sure how you’re coming to that conclusion. In fact, I’ve heard the opposite throughout my experience in school and patient care experiences, and I always try to act with integrity. To say you would legitimately quit any uncomfortable situation because you don’t agree with it as a statement of credibility, at the cost of great financial debt, sounds great but is impractical and ineffective at best. Overall, you make a lot of assumptions in your statements regarding me. I don’t know who you are and therefore will not make judgements on you as a person. I’ll leave that to you and your close friends. That is totally antithetical to scientific and objective reasoning and really serves to purpose but to inflame and seek an emotional reaction, which you will not receive from me on this message board.

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14 hours ago, GapLustrum said:

Yeah, this doesn't seem very productive. Sorry for giving the impression I had literally not heard a single negative thing about the school and was expecting all sunshine and rainbows. That wasn't the case, but I realize that came across in my wording/hyperbole. I think most of us had already made up our minds what we were going to do pending an offer, but if "1234PA1994" provided something new that changed things last minute for anyone, cool I guess. From my perspective, at the time I read their post, without much clarifying details, in this context, without knowing who they were, it didn't seem very helpful, but I realize someone could have felt differently. Sorry for starting a shitstorm, this is why I stay off social media lol.

I appreciate this comment. There’s no reason to attack each other for different views. I understand that many people are depending on this one school and that was one of the reasons I wrote my initial comment. I want those who are counting on this and still do not get in to possibly consider extending their options during reapplication. I never even said for them to rule out reapplying to EVMS. I’ve been through this like many of you on here and many of my classmates so I can empathize. Sometimes I feel that it can be damaging to many individuals’ self esteem who do not get in to see people talk about how great everything is. I’ve heard people tell me they quit trying over the perception that they are failures. I’ve heard from those who do give up because they put all their eggs in one basket and keep failing and also some who are dead set on coming here and applying 5 times to get in. I thought having people see what I have to say, being a current student, would have more weight and actually help them gain a larger perspective, minus some fluff. Reapplying after failing to gain a seat is a difficult situation. I myself spent a great deal of time, money, and effort applying and flying to interviews, and faced quite a bit of rejection myself. That’s why I was saying it’s more about perseverance than being the smartest or what school one attends. Sure it’s a lot of work, but I believe that anyone who gets in to any PA program has to be pretty smart and pretty special because the odds are not in anyone’s favor to get into most programs. I just don’t think the program is as important than the personal effort. I could give you a list of material to learn and you could take care of half of PA studying on your own with books and YouTube videos. SCSIL is the best thing at EVMS as it really prepares you well. I just am a pretty straight-to-the-point person and there are enough over-the-top positive people in my opinion, and a sober, unemotional viewpoint is what I have to offer. Maybe knowing these things can help some people who are struggling and I never wanted this to be about me personally. I’m sure that no matter what people will interpret my words differently depending on their own viewpoint, but I can only control how I react to those views. Good luck with your efforts to be a PA. It is actually a very rewarding career. 

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11 minutes ago, BeAPA716 said:

Sooo do we think today we'll hear something? It's been officially three weeks since the conclusion of the last interview 😧

I hope so!  A student of the MPA program said they didn't have class today, but I don't think the school is closed.  I have my phone close.  Good luck everybody!  

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17 minutes ago, SecondCareerPrePA said:

 

I hope so!  A student of the MPA program said they didn't have class today, but I don't think the school is closed.  I have my phone close.  Good luck everybody!  

I tried to call this morning and it goes right to voicemail so hopefully the faculty are still there. 

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Haven't received a waitlist email yet either.  Sorry pafuture1234!  Try not to get too discouraged.  You could still get in somewhere.  I've had to apply a couple cycles.

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7 minutes ago, Mems94 said:

I haven’t gotten anything yet either. I called and was told we should hear something by the end of day. 

🤞

Good luck to all!

The anticipation is killing me!

Tom

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9 minutes ago, BeAPA716 said:

just got my rejection email. 

Sorry BeAPA716!  That's a long time to wait for that.  I wish you all the best.  Keep fighting for what you want for yourself.

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1 hour ago, SecondCareerPrePA said:

Really hoping all this waiting leads to good news!!!  🤞

I would contact them. I did to verify my email was correct and while it was the right info the email was bounced back and they don’t know why. They had to resend the email via CASPA (still waiting for it)

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