GetMeOuttaThisMess Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 11 mo in CO found with THC in system after development of myocarditis leading to cardiac arrest. Myocarditis attributed to high level of THC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Here's a link. It appears that the case study has some pretty big questions and some folks ain't buying it. http://www.9news.com/news/health/colorado-doctors-claim-first-marijuana-overdose-death/491760125 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceBanner Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Sounds like a leap to me. Wouldn't it be more prudent (and scientific) to call it a case of idiopathic myocarditis? Especially when no known mechanism for THC induced myocarditis has been established. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contrarian Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Garbage... : - / 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetMeOuttaThisMess Posted November 16, 2017 Author Share Posted November 16, 2017 Sounds like a leap to me. Wouldn't it be more prudent (and scientific) to call it a case of idiopathic myocarditis? Especially when no known mechanism for THC induced myocarditis has been established.If it’s on a death certificate it has to be real (just like the internet) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyblu Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 What’s the mechanism through which THC would cause myocarditis? I’ve never heard of that correlation before, and god knows I’ve seen more than my fair share of THC enthusiasts during my ED career! (And my husband’s Grateful Dead “career”, more to the point.) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetMeOuttaThisMess Posted November 17, 2017 Author Share Posted November 17, 2017 Who knows. ME didn’t apparently know. Later saw story on other news outlets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk732 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 I suppose anything can happen - I almost cardioverted a guy that came in tachycardic and freaking out...turned out a "friend" (who I'm surprised wasn't black and blue in the bed beside him and I told him as much) had given him some special cookies without telling him they were laced with weed. I suppose if the kid was wound up long enough, its possible...but, as they always taught us in school, association =/= causation. The myocarditis could well be from a usual suspect, like some virus we can't see/find/test for or just plain old idiopathic. Will sit and eat popcorn waiting for more...talking of dope is giving me the munchies, lol. SK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetMeOuttaThisMess Posted November 18, 2017 Author Share Posted November 18, 2017 “We are absolutely not saying that marijuana killed that child,” said Thomas Nappe, an author of the report who is now the director of medical toxicology at St. Luke’s University Health Network in Bethlehem, Pa. Nappe, who co-authored the report with Christopher Hoyte, explained that the doctors simply observed this unusual sequence of events, documented it and alerted the medical community that it is worth studying a possible relationship between cannabis and the child’s cause of death, myocarditis, or inflammation of the heart muscle. Their observations appeared in the August edition of the journal Clinical Practice and Cases in Emergency Medicine as a case report, which is significantly different from a scientific study or research report that can be used to establish a causal relationship. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyblu Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 “But we’re not NOT saying it”?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetMeOuttaThisMess Posted November 18, 2017 Author Share Posted November 18, 2017 At this point I'm not sure what they are trying to say, that they didn't say, but maybe wanted to say. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk732 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 2 hours ago, GetMeOuttaThisMess said: At this point I'm not sure what they trying say that they didn't say but maybe wanted to say. What he said... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator ventana Posted January 14, 2022 Moderator Share Posted January 14, 2022 Open minded. If it is 1:100,000 or million it might be possible. Might get people to lock up their MJ or at least mandate they dispense it in child resistant packages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatswain2PA Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 On 11/17/2017 at 4:00 PM, skyblu said: (And my husband’s Grateful Dead “career”, more to the point.) Okay.. its just rude to leave us all hanging like this......please provide more details about hubby's Grateful Dead "career"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator rev ronin Posted January 15, 2022 Administrator Share Posted January 15, 2022 12 minutes ago, Boatswain2PA said: Okay.. its just rude to leave us all hanging like this......please provide more details about hubby's Grateful Dead "career"! You realize that was posted over 4y ago, right? Be great if you got a response but... don't hold your breath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatswain2PA Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 hour ago, rev ronin said: You realize that was posted over 4y ago, right? Be great if you got a response but... don't hold your breath. Nope, sorry, didn't realize that a moderator did a necrobump. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cideous Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 13 hours ago, Boatswain2PA said: Nope, sorry, didn't realize that a moderator did a necrobump. I'm stealing "Necrobump". Damn Boats...that is funny! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted January 15, 2022 Moderator Share Posted January 15, 2022 There have certainly been many fatalities at this point from kids drinking nicotine or THC vape juice. I live in one legal marijuana state and work in another. I have seen LOTS of issues related to the legalization, mostly among the elderly (who consumed edibles unknowingly) or stupid teenagers who can't read "serving size is one gummy bear" (not all 10) on their edibles package. Rates of cannabinoid hyperemesis have gone through the roof too. I didn't know this existed until a few years ago now see it almost every shift...and they ALWAYS say " dude, it can't be the weed". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator ventana Posted January 15, 2022 Moderator Share Posted January 15, 2022 16 hours ago, Boatswain2PA said: Nope, sorry, didn't realize that a moderator did a necrobump. nope was not a mod - I did not even realize it was that old.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk732 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 17 hours ago, EMEDPA said: Rates of cannabinoid hyperemesis have gone through the roof too. I didn't know this existed until a few years ago now see it almost every shift...and they ALWAYS say " dude, it can't be the weed". Yup...it's never the weed... SK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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