Karki Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Hello friends, I am new to the group. I am a foreign medical graduate and a greencard holder. I studied medicine for 5.5 years. I am going to apply for Anesthesiology residency, which is very competitive. I am thinking to work as an Anesthesiology Assistant or Physician associate in Anesthesiology. My questions are: 1. What are the differences between these two positions in Anesthesiology? 2. Can I take National Commission for Certification of Anesthesiologist Assistants examination (NCCAA) ? Any suggestions are welcome... Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted October 2, 2017 Moderator Share Posted October 2, 2017 to work as a PA or AA in the US you need to attend one of those programs.....no adv credit for foreign medical training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 3 hours ago, EMEDPA said: to work as a PA or AA in the US you need to attend one of those programs.....no adv credit for foreign medical training. Absolutely true. These fields are separate from that of MD/DO, and require separate training. The term "assistant" is misleading and they may change it to something else. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karki Posted October 3, 2017 Author Share Posted October 3, 2017 I heard that once you are ECFMG certified after passing USMLE Steps, you get to work as a Physician Assistant in some states. Do you guys know anything about that? I am really lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizzyJ Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 8 hours ago, Karki said: I heard that once you are ECFMG certified after passing USMLE Steps, you get to work as a Physician Assistant in some states. Do you guys know anything about that? I am really lost. This is not true. In order to work as a PA you must graduate from a PA program and pass the PANCE. If you are applying to anesthesiology residency, as a physician, then is becoming an AA or PA your back up plan? PAs do not work in anesthesiology like an AA or CRNA can. Suggest a bit more research on your end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 8 hours ago, Karki said: I heard that once you are ECFMG certified after passing USMLE Steps, you get to work as a Physician Assistant in some states. Do you guys know anything about that? I am really lost. Not true. They are completely different tracks entirely, barely even related. Think of getting a license to drive a car. This does not allow you to fly an airplane. Or vice versa. Here's the statement from our national certifying body: If I have a medical degree, can I get certified as a PA without graduating from a PA program? No. You must graduate from a PA program accredited by ARC-PA or one of its predecessors. **Even if you have earned a medical degree from another country, you must still graduate from an accredited PA program to take PANCE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camoman1234 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 11 hours ago, Karki said: I heard that once you are ECFMG certified after passing USMLE Steps, you get to work as a Physician Assistant in some states. Do you guys know anything about that? I am really lost. You are thinking about a "Assistant Physician". Please google this and research this topic as you can practice in this capacity with the correct criteria met. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karki Posted October 3, 2017 Author Share Posted October 3, 2017 1 hour ago, camoman1234 said: You are thinking about a "Assistant Physician". Please google this and research this topic as you can practice in this capacity with the correct criteria met. You were right... I googled about Assistant Physician and found about the position that I was looking for. You guys are so much helpful, really appreciate every inputs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator rev ronin Posted October 6, 2017 Administrator Share Posted October 6, 2017 On 10/3/2017 at 7:52 AM, Karki said: You were right... I googled about Assistant Physician and found about the position that I was looking for. You guys are so much helpful, really appreciate every inputs. Best wishes, but I think the Assistant Physician (could it POSSIBLY be more confusing?) in the few states that have one requires U.S. or maybe U.S./Canadian medical school graduation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Man, I didn't even know about the A-P thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PACShrink Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 On 10/5/2017 at 9:08 PM, rev ronin said: Best wishes, but I think the Assistant Physician (could it POSSIBLY be more confusing?) in the few states that have one requires U.S. or maybe U.S./Canadian medical school graduation. This just confuses people even more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollivander Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Just out of pure curiosity what do "assistant physicians" pull annually? What states can they even practice in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PACShrink Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Ollivander said: Just out of pure curiosity what do "assistant physicians" pull annually? What states can they even practice in? As far as I have seen through my limited research, they can practice in Missouri, http://pr.mo.gov/assistantphysicians.asp and Utah https://le.utah.gov/~2017/bills/hbillint/HB0396.pdf This is the only page I could find for their 'organization'. Salary??? Tell me this job listing is not confusing.... https://www.indeed.com/cmp/Moonlight-Exams/jobs/Assistant-Physician-0778665a867174c8?q=Assistant+Physician+Assistant I can't find any other info on salary... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollivander Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 3 hours ago, PACShrink said: Tell me this job listing is not confusing.... https://www.indeed.com/cmp/Moonlight-Exams/jobs/Assistant-Physician-0778665a867174c8?q=Assistant+Physician+Assistant I can't find any other info on salary... Seems as though they get paid around the same as a PA. That job listing though...I felt like it was all over the place. That would be one that I avoid even if it were a PA listing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marinejiujitsu Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 It's a Missouri thing. Assistant physician.Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karki Posted October 9, 2017 Author Share Posted October 9, 2017 Thank you guys.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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