Boatswain2PA Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 Recent "newsblast" from NCCPA said there is a forthcoming announcement about an "alternative to the PANRE". Anybody know what that is about? Pay the NCCPA a grand and they grant you cerification??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airslant Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 I'm signed up for my panre right now. I'd like to know if I need to go take it...Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCHAD Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 35 minutes ago, Boatswain2PA said: Recent "newsblast" from NCCPA said there is a forthcoming announcement about an "alternative to the PANCE". Anybody know what that is about? Pay the NCCPA a grand and they grant you cerification??? *PANRE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatswain2PA Posted September 21, 2017 Author Share Posted September 21, 2017 correction, PANRE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrown88 Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 I literally signed up for the PANRE 4 hours before getting that email....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSUnoles Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 I thought they were going to do something in beginning of the year and nothing happened. It's incredible we work alongside NPs who don't have to do this and are largely paid exactly the same as us Sent from my ONE A2005 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted September 21, 2017 Moderator Share Posted September 21, 2017 They are likely going to propose a cme only based panre alternative....that costs the same....I'm just going to keep taking the test... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelusionalEnthusiasm Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 23 minutes ago, EMEDPA said: They are likely going to propose a cme only based panre alternative....that costs the same....I'm just going to keep taking the test... I think If they did it well I would do that. Being in a specialty we don’t get a lot of general medicine refreshing or even updates with new things. If they put it together as a great refresher and with new up to date guidelines and meds for managment of common diseases I think it would be a good alternative to do once in a 10 year cycle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted September 21, 2017 Moderator Share Posted September 21, 2017 it would probably be an ongoing maintenance of certification thing like some of the docs have to do. read an article every month indefinitely and take a quiz at the end. no way nccpa will ever lose money on anything so they charge you 25 dollars/mo to receive the article and grade the quiz so every 2 years you put out $500 or so...indefinitely.....no thanks....I work in a field that exposes me to the full range of primary care medicine, but could understand why someone working in a narrow field would find this appealing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrsmurf Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 Was thinking about signing up for my PANRE this month, but I guess I'll wait. I have a feeling you're right EMEDPA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sas5814 Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 I'm going to the conference in Louisianna in a couple of weeks and they are going to have a presentation there. I'll be interested to hear what they have to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 16 hours ago, EMEDPA said: no way nccpa will ever lose money on anything TROOF. Although, my vote goes to a more expensive option than current, which by the way, gets more expensive every year. They are in this for the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmiller3 Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 The cost does not bother me. The high-stakes test does. Charge me $100 dollars a year for CME that you test me on a la NetCE, and we'll call it a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrieger Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Yes, got an email today regarding the alternative to PANRE. It is nothing more than yet another test. But this one will be broken up in to 8, - 25 question tests...1 each quarter for the 2 year cycle. It can be taken from home but it is essentially the same as going to a test center. The tests are timed and graded and need to pass them. I think this is ridiculous. How is this any better than what we currently have? So now you'll have to study/review constantly throughout the 2 year cycle? Anyone else have any thoughts on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawk Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Yeah, I'm not thrilled with the "alternative." It's basically a slow-motion PANRE spread out over 2 years. You have 1-5 minutes to answer the questions, which doesn't give you time to "access reference materials" as they say. You would be in constant study/test mode. In short, it's just another $350 test. I've been in GI almost 20 years and am dreading taking the PANRE next year. My ability to continue working in the profession will hinge on my knowledge of pediatric dermatology or EKG interpretation or things I haven't seen since PA school in the 90s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrieger Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 I could not agree with you more. I’ve been doing this for 15 yrs and the testing is the most anxiety ridden ordeal in these last 15 yrs...getting old...passing as standardized test mean as nothing in regards to your ability to practice as a PA in the “real world”. After passing our initial PANCE, there should be no further testing, only CME in my opnion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggama Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Here it is!! Fresh off press 2 October 2017! http://www.nccpa.net/alternative-to-panre i think this means if my certification expires 12/31/18, I can be part of pilot?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggama Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 For those of us with test anxiety I would rather do the questions over 2 years-and be able to have back up material in front of me instead of memorization of every stinking detail. Even though I work in Emergency Medicine and exposed to a lot, I do not take tests well and is a poor gauge of my knowledge. Thank you NCCPA-even though they're making more money-the extra price is worth less stress in my life for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paula Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 I'm breathing another sigh of relief. I took PANRE in 2016 and am on the 10 year cycle. Will be retired by 2026. No More PANRE for me!!!!! I dodged the bullet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted October 4, 2017 Moderator Share Posted October 4, 2017 my next one is 2024, so I have at least 2 more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrieger Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 The test is timed and you only have 1-5 minutes per question. You are not gonna have enough time to look much up. You will basically be in "test mode" studying all the time by having to take an exam every quarter for 2 years. If we have to test, I will stick with the current format. At least you get it all out of the way in one day long test session... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizzyJ Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 I'm still on 6 year cycle and have PANRE due 2019. Eligible of course to take PANRE in 2018. I'm not sure what I think about this. On one hand it seems nice to be able to sit down and go through 25 questions whenever/wherever I would like, but then I don't like spreading it out over 2 years. I'd rather just take the PANRE and be done with it in one day and then know where I stand. Will be interesting to see what happens with all this. What are initial thoughts from everyone who will be eligible for this pilot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CO PA-C Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Will these mini-tests be a random collection or will they be organized into specialities- like all OB-GYN? The NCCPA makes money from PAs having take the PANCE and the PANRE. I would assume we will always have a test that we will be required to take so their cash flow stays up. An alternative is still an alternative. I'm not thrilled about this option, but I like it more than putting everything on the line in one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceBanner Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 12 hours ago, boydsl said: Here it is!! Fresh off press 2 October 2017! http://www.nccpa.net/alternative-to-panre i think this means if my certification expires 12/31/18, I can be part of pilot?? The way I understand it, yes. I'm on board. I don't see why someone wouldn't want to do it if eligible. It's 25 questions every 3 months. Sit down with Up To Date in one window and the test questions in the next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALC0313 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 So if you do this pilot, do you take the 25 question tests for the 2 years and then you're good for 10 years? Or do you have to keep taking the 25 questions every 2 year cycle @ $350 a pop... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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