galaxystar Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Hi everyone, I am currently a PA practicing in urgent care/ER ( 4 years of experience) looking to switch my job closer to home. I was wondering if I can get your guys' input for an ER offer i just received. $70/hour + RVU, 120 hours/month in considered full time, $1500 for CME no PTO, no sick leave Malpractice/health/dental included Currently, I work at a ER (teaching institute) that pays $50/hour, 12 paid holidays/year, 2 weeks PTO, 12 sick days, great health/dental insurance, malpractice covered, i get about $1500 for CME, and pension when i retire. I am looking for a change because i have a really long commute and currently work 5 8-hours shifts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted August 24, 2017 Moderator Share Posted August 24, 2017 20/hr raise buys a lot of benefits and 120/hrs mo is a nice schedule. I do 120 hrs/mo at my primary job with a regular schedule and pick up extra shifts elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anewconvert Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 When do you vest into the pension?? Defined benefit plan > a lot of stuff, but that schedule and that extra $$$ is tempting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PACJD Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Pay and hours are nice. No PTO is disappointing though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ral Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 14 minutes ago, NJPL1213 said: No PTO is disappointing though. In my experience, 120 hours/month leaves plenty of personal time. Creative scheduling can give you long stretches of days off. I've done it numerous times while working as an independent contractor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted August 25, 2017 Moderator Share Posted August 25, 2017 most folks who work 120 hrs have a 2nd or 3rd job... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbrothers98 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Job changes all come down to math and the benefit resulting. Sprinkle the dislikes of current job with the fairy dust of the new job over the process and make a decision. Math- You work a lot of hours now, work year 2080 hours, you get paid for all of that due to holidays, sick time and PTO. $104,000 according to what you listed. New job, 120 hrs /mo x 12 mos x $70= $100,800. How is that RVU calculated? Any estimates? Less commute time, less gas money, less time working since now you are responsible for only 1440 hours instead of 2080. Realize if 120hrs/mos is full time, the perspective from a 8 hour drone worker mentality equals one entire week off a month. If you work 10 hour shifts, you have 18-19 days off a month. 12 hour shifts, 20 to 21 days off a month. Can you make up the missing $$ with a per diem shift elsewhere such as the old job? Likely. Or does the cost savings from the shortened commute bring you even? Does the RVUs provide you a bonus that covers the salary difference? The other consideration is benefit cost. Will you be contributing more of your salary to the new benefits? More comparison math needs to be done. You are leaving a pension on the table. This is future income to consider. Is there a replacement for this at the new job? Will you be swapping more money now for less money later because of lackluster retirement funds? Hard question, never an easy answer. But best question to ask yourself is this: What is important to you? If it is more time off, you know the answer. Good luck George Brothers PA-C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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