Casual Shift Offer (New grad)

[Dichotomy]

Hello all,

I've read few posts on full time employment offers (contract) for new grads in terms of what a contract should look like (Salary, Hours, CME, PTO, vacation, # of patient, Retirement plan, etc.) and red flags to be aware of. Now, can someone elaborate on the dynamics of a PRN or Casual offer. 

Basically, I will graduate in a month and taking the board a month later. Got an interview for a ER job. Got a call the next day from HR stating "We would like to offer you a position on a casual basis until something opens up later. Rate is 57.75/ Hr, would you like to take it ?" I said thanks,  will get back to her about my decision.

I would like to have your opinion on this. Is this typical of PRN position? No mention of a contract term, malpractice coverage, CME, etc ? Any red flag here? What other question would you ask?

Is the hourly rate okay, should I negotiate more since apparently there is NO benefit ? What's reasonable? This is a major hospital systemic in the midwest. Thanks for your feedback!

[rcardillo]

I don't think 57 an hour is worth it if you have to pick up your own malpractice and tail coverage. You'd have to run the numbers, but I don't see why they wouldn't give malpractice with the per diem shifts.

[dchampigny]

There is much, much too much to be imagined with this offer. Keep looking.

[airslant]

Get more details and come back so we can give some advice.

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[wookie]

^^ Details on whether malpractice is offered as echoed by previous replies. Per diem positions don't usually come with benefits except for malpractice. Based on what I've read throughout this forum, per diem hourly rate should be ~30% higher than a FT position hourly rate with benefits. 

Depends on your region, most importantly. Since you've done the research on what you're worth hourly, you can just multiply 1.3x. 

Although, I can't say I was bold enough to ask for 1.3x hourly rate from my per diem job. Not even close. Lot of factors in play. 

[Boatswain2PA]

I don't see a reason for PRN to get someone 30% more. 

 

As long as they pay for malpractice  (with tail) then this may be okay for you.  Pay is not good, but it's PRN.  If they need ya Thursday, and your free Thursday, then pick up the shift.

[camoman1234]

Boatswain2pa: Why would you not want that 30% increase if you are not getting all the benefits of a FTE? You are missing out on vacation time/CME $/sick time/401k/short and long term disability/health care coverage and the list goes on.... I would not work anywhere PRN if they paid me the same as their FTE...thats just crazy talk :)

[Boatswain2PA]

Because it's PRN...which means whenever you WANT to work.  The scheduler can't tell me when I'm going to work, and I will only work there when I want to.  

If you can get 30% more then great...but if Dichotomy wants to work for $57/hr as PRN, it's up to him.

 

[camoman1234]

Of course it is up to him, but you can work for $25/hr as well, its up to you Boatswain2PA. All the PRN jobs I worked were not work when you WANT, it had a minimum of 2 shifts per month or 24hrs/6 week schedule... I completely disagree, but you work for whatever you would like to, just be aware you could be screwing others down the road...

[Dichotomy]

Thank you all for your inputs- They are not willing to raise the offer any higher after multiple negotiations. Malpractice is covered. Base offer pertains to day hours with $5 and $8 xtra for evening and overnight shift respectively. No other incentives.