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NPs trying to pass legislation against PAs in Wisconsin?!! Anyone knwo about this?!


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A friend PA of mine set me this today, (quote below), from a PA he knows in Wisconsin.  If this is really true, this is really, really insanely bad and unbelievable and I've no words...why NPs would actually take the energy and efforts to do this sort of thing.

 

"Nurse practitioners just tried to take our legs out from underneath us here in Wisconsin. Last Thursday, they introduced legislation that quietly removed PAs from the definition of provider. We caught it and are gearing up to fight it."

 

I sure hope you guys are FIGHTING this HARD!  I've a hard time wrapping my brain around this one!

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I'm in Wisconsin and haven't heard about this... 

 

For the month of April, I see the following legislation introduced that concerns healthcare:

 

4/10 Assembly Bill 222

4/10 Assembly Bill 224

4/10 Assembly Bill 227

4/7   Senate Bill 161

 

Each one of those makes reference to "advanced practice clinician" meaning "a physician assistant or an advanced practice nurse, including a nurse practitioner, certified nurse midwife, clinical nurse specialist, or certified registered nurse anesthesiologist" or "allied health professional" meaning "any individual who is a provider other than a physician, registered nurse, dentist, pharmacist, chiropractor, or podiatrist who provides diagnostic, technical, therapeutic, or direct patient care and support services to the patient." 

 

So maybe that problem was already rectified by a PA friendly state senator or assemblyman? There are just too many PA schools in Wisconsin tied to too powerful of universities (University of Wisconsin Madison, University of Wisconsin La Crosse, Marquette University, etc.) for something like that to slide. Not to mention, the state's premier private medical school is closely allied with Marquette University and tends to work with them on this sort of stuff. 

 

I'd be very interested to see what bill the PA was referring to... mostly so that I can get some phone calls out to my local representatives! 

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Guest Paula

I'm aware of this and it is proposed to be in the nursing sections of their practice acts.  The PA Council got wind of it and tried to work with the nursing board and was told that the way our law is interpreted means that nurses can no longer take an order from a PA since a PA cannot delegate any work to another person if it was a delegated act from their SP.  It is convoluted thinking as PAs are listed as primary care providers and if it actually gets written in to their nursing laws PAs will have another battle to face in WI.  

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On ‎7‎/‎29‎/‎2017 at 3:49 PM, Paula said:

I'm aware of this and it is proposed to be in the nursing sections of their practice acts.  The PA Council got wind of it and tried to work with the nursing board and was told that the way our law is interpreted means that nurses can no longer take an order from a PA since a PA cannot delegate any work to another person if it was a delegated act from their SP.  It is convoluted thinking as PAs are listed as primary care providers and if it actually gets written in to their nursing laws PAs will have another battle to face in WI.  

What are your thoughts on this, Paula? Will PAs have to fight that battle? I'm not aware of what the legislative climate is like for PAs... although I did see Scott Walker post about an NP appreciation day, so maybe it's not that good?

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Where did you see Gov Walker's post about NP appreciation day?  I'll google and see what I can find out.  Maybe it's in celebration of Nurse's day?  I'm bringing the nursing act proposal up at our Advocacy committee meeting tonight. 

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On ‎8‎/‎8‎/‎2017 at 8:21 AM, Paula said:

Where did you see Gov Walker's post about NP appreciation day?  I'll google and see what I can find out.  Maybe it's in celebration of Nurse's day?  I'm bringing the nursing act proposal up at our Advocacy committee meeting tonight. 

I don't think it was for Nurse's Day... the #1 liked comment was from an NP thanking the governor and hoping that he'd support NPs as they pushed to practice at their fullest extent... It was on Facebook. I'll try and track it down.

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That was in 2016 and perhaps we can get Governor Walker to do likewise for PAs for October.  October 6 is traditionally PA recognition day.

I'll post the idea to our communications team and see if they would be willing to ask for a similar declaration.

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